Our friends Bobby Kennedy Jr. and GoLeft.tv interview another of our friends, Election Integrity hero Ion Sancho, the legendary Leon County, FL, Supervisor of Elections, on the election messes in New Hampshire, Florida, Los Angeles, and everywhere else. (And thanks for the kind hat-tip, guys…even though The BRAD BLOG never claimed there was fraud in NH. But we’re happy to let that slide, since the interview was live, and you might have been talking about someone else. And we know you mean well.)
WARNING: Markos Moulitsas and the other front-pagers and gatekeeping denialists at Daily Kos should not watch the above interview! If Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has a user record over there, you should go ahead and ban him right now! Make sure he’s never allowed to write at dKos! In this interview, he has the temerity to talk about concerns with the way the New Hampshire Primary Election was conducted! Can you believe it?! And he’s even a Hillary Clinton supporter! Clearly, he, like The BRAD BLOG, is “doing far more harm than good,” as you like to say, for the Election Integrity movement! What will the Democratic Party and the Mainstream Corporate Media say about your site if that “nutter” Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is allowed to post over there?! Quickly — before he damages the credibility of your site — you better go ahead and ban RFK Jr. in advance! As you know, better safe than sorry, boys!
Hello Brad, Thank you, as always for for continuing efforts to bring to light the many troubling issues of today. Voting issues are at the top of my mind these days because here in Phoenix Arizona, I was not allowed to vote. My name was not on the list of registered voters. I suspect this is due to my changing of party affiliation from Independent to Democrat. Jan Brewer is our Secretary of State. If one were to google her, one would find other people who also had issues. This seems to be a growing problem for people who want to have their vote registered and counted. Thanks again Brad for your efforts.
Congrats, Brad! In your haste to snark at dkos you’ve allowed a situation where Kennedy says that Bradblog has cried fraud in the NH primary… without any correction from you.
Did I mention before that you need to chill before posting in regards to dkos?… because if you don’t then it means kos and cronies will cheerfully grind Bradblog underfoot behind the scenes while using all the tools you give him in your anger. And the regular dkosians, most of whom seem to actually support Bradblog and EI, will be left with an impression of you that is contradictory at best… and hypocritical at worst.
Yes, kos and company will run over all EI advocates with a steamroller in pursuit of such “official” democratic crap as Holt’s Fiasco… but while your intentions are good you’re not helping when you consistently post without forethought whenever that bunch of political panderers crosses your mind.
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… … … and you do realize, don’t you, just how very odd it is to be schooled in anger management by a zapkitty?… 😉
And kos be sure to ban John Gideon and the mayor of NY City too.
Don’t ban any CIA operatives tho cause they are liberals. Yep, keep the CIA waterboarders onboard and ban the nutters who think there are any problems with elections in Amurka.
Support folks like “B.” Esser, Steve Carter, and Todd Rokita whose motto is “what election problems?”
Ban the DNC too, cause they say there is election corruption going on right now kossies:
(Raw Story, emphasis added). Sufferin succotash, at this rate the righteous dKos is gonna get thin eh?
RFK, the bradblog officials did not cry fraud, they cried foul.
They said they don’t know exactly what happened because some 80% the ballots were not counted.
There The_Zapkitty, our pal RFK has been unofficially updated.
Go get ’em Ion, your a true patriot
Fraud and extra-ordinary anomalies go hand in hand IMO
Just ask the big B esser
Wher’d that story go Dredd, HOLY SHIT!!!
{Ed Note: He’d already posted it here, Flo. –99}
Peter Kuttner #1 –
FYI, I’ll be in Phoenix on March 13th for a screening of UNCOUNTED, as sponsored by KPHX at the Camelview. They’re setting up a cool website for it, though I don’t know if it’s live yet, so I won’t point you to it.
If you search BRAD BLOG for Brewer, you’ll find a few items here as well about the dear lady.
As to your registration, well, that’s what happens when Brewer is allowed to outsource the entire thing to ES&S! Sigh…
Please feel free to raise hell.
Zap #2 –
Should have known the Zapster would notice that! 🙂
I figured I’d let that slide since it was more trouble than worth to point that out, and Bobby actually seems to have been referring to MCM there, but I got lumped in.
Anyway, have now updated the text with a caveat, since I know you’re a stickler 🙂
You did. But I ignored it.
And will likely continue to do so. (Ignore is too strong of a word, but hopefully you appreciate that.) Don’t believe any chilling is necessary. As much as I appreciate and hear the advice and concern, as ever.
I’m ignoring that too 🙂
Kos is powerful. He can huff and puff and bloooow your house down. Be afraid ..be very afraid of Kos ’cause…
Oh, and N.H. SOS Gardner should be removed from office for fixing N.H. for corporate Hill. Same goes for Mayor Bloomberg for not conducting an investigation for blatant election fraud. He is doing a recount accoding to the NY Post.
One more time…
Leon Cty FL elections supervisor Ion Sancho on DU:
Top 10 reasons for doing polling analysis
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=printer_friendly&forum=203&topic_id=487848
Sancho (458 posts)
Wed Dec-19-07 07:34 AM
Response to Original message
11. I’m glad that TIA raises the questions. A top 10 list.
Even though poll analysis may not be statistically convincing in traditional terms, there are several positives to TIA’s posts:
1) Anecdotal evidence of vote switching, undervotes, etc. are pointing to election fraud, but not “legal proof”, and that is consistent with TIA’s hypotheses; a form of convergent validity
2) Some of TIA’s analyses reveal patterns that hold pollsters feet to the fire in the future and they may be forced to be more transparent about the popular processes
3) If we think that elections can be rigged, a well-designed exit poll at the precinct level (parallel election) is likely the only way to provide clear evidence of all the possible manipulations of machines, tabulators, provisional ballots, etc. so that proper investigations and re-elections can be held
4) Some of TIA’s analyses are refutable, but as stated before, non-ignorable nonresponse can only be determined with heroic efforts (see Howard Wainer: Eelworms, Bullet Holes, and Geraldine Ferraro: Some Problems in Statistically Adjusting for Survey Nonresponse) and TIA is making the heroic effort that needs to be done – maybe something will surface that can’t be refuted at some point
5) TIA’s posts have generated a number of other investigations by statisticians and political scientists – good for the order to do this thinking
6) Even when a given analysis is questionable in sampling/probability terms, the variety of analyses as a group by TIA have more convincing weight – sort of a poor man’s meta-analysis
7) TIA’s discoveries remind me of John Snow ( http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow/fatherofepidemiology.ht… ). Sometimes there is no scientific proof, but the pattern can show one where to look
8) TIA has certainly got more people reading about polls and statistics that would normally be interested. A more sophisticated public won’t be as easily fooled by unexplained weighting in the future
9) TIA has been responding to criticisms over the last couple of years and takes the debate to a new level about WPE, reluctant responders, and attractive pollsters
10) TIA’s viewpoint is not one of an insider (pollster) and many disciplines can’t see the forest for the trees, so having an outside examination is a good idea; the rhetoric that “exit polls can’t prove fraud” is mostly a pollster’s lament, not a universal law of physics!
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Link to article on Ion Sancho
http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1015&Itemid=113
So…Kos kids are in denial about election fraud, too?! Let me guess…something about endorsing unprovable conspiracy theories will destroy the credibility of DailyKos…??
They are such juveniles, and they hide behind the same screen regarding 911Truth.
I think Brad is doing an excellent job exposing the DailyKos as a gatekeeper domain. Brad’s place here has good volume. Kos is on the downswing. BradBlog will always be a force even if election irregularities {outright fraud?} go away. He is a good kid with an interesting non-tinfoil place.
You can’t always take the state-sponsored trolling lying down. They are cyber ganging up on Brad, calling him a “nutter.” Even if Kos outlawed mentioning of the BradBlog, it would backfire. We the anonymous bloggers are a force. A great thing about most of us yanks is we just want the truth whatever it is.
At my humble forum, I have it even tougher than Brad for my bread and butter topic. They are gonna keep spinning BradBlog as tinfoil forever. They have played all their cards, and this is the last one.
BradBlog, imho, has played his cards very well. Maybe over a brewski or two we could get him to shout out, yes, it’s fraud. But for the purposes of getting this profound issue rectified, he is going about it the best way he can. He’s crossing t’s and dotting i’s.
Floridiot #6
That kos power trip is addictive. Some of us wishfully think we can control things with our keyboard … kosdel, koscut … you gotta good eye.
Did I mention the qui tam 😉 ? Did someone get a similar message and drop it?
Gives new meaning to drop out …
American flag waived, Amurkan flag waved …
Dredd, I was just coming back here to qui tam it, damn it
Awful quiet out there about that except the “see you on the barricades” speech at Live Earth.
Do you think Corporate (s)Hill has anything to do with that ?
99, I didn’t look there because IMO I usually try not to look at anything about Rush or Ann because I don’t feel they deserve any attention whatsoever
Floridiot #16
You picked up on my #15 I see. There is real danger and we are asleep, but hate is not:
(Hate Obama). RFK knows all this as good or even better than we do.
American flag waived, Amurkan flag waved …
Not only does Brad cross his ‘t’s and dot his ‘i’s, but he sometimes draws little hearts over the ‘i’s. He isn’t a hater (AFAIK) and he isn’t (very) afraid of the Truth and letting people talk about it on the blog.
I hereby nominate him for blogger man of the year!
Is there such a thing?