Guest blogged by Winter Patriot
LATE UPDATE: Since the following item was posted, we have seen a drastic change in the behavior of email filtering for both Comcast and users of other email services. We do not know what was causing the problem, or why the symptoms have disappeared. We may be forgiven, I suppose, if we suspect the rapid change of status had something to do with the amount of noise generated over this issue. Thanks to you, the blogosphere is working. And we will post further updates if and when we learn more. Thanks again to all who have contributed to the effort.
We no longer need readers to perform the tests described below. But if you wish to do them for your own interest, we have no desire to stop you 😉
UPDATE: After the following speculative item was somewhat tentatively posted, we have been able to confirm reports of emails being blocked by other ISPs as well as Comcast. We’ll post more when we know more. In the meantime, please try the tests described below, regardless of your e-mail provider, so we can get some sense of the scope of the problem. Thank you very much, as always.
Five weeks ago The BRAD BLOG ran a report indicating that Comcast, the nation’s most popular email provider, was automatically deleting emails containing the web address “www.afterdowningstreet.org”. Shortly after the report was published, 6 or 7 people made such a commotion that the problem was suddenly fixed. Various explanations were given, none of which cut any ice in the opinion of this lowly and nearly frozen blogger, but at least the problem went away.
Why am I telling you this? Background info. Today we have received a report indicating that something similar is happening again, but this time the address that triggers Comcast’s automatic deletion is “www.meetwithcindy.org”.
Personally, I do not have Comcast service, nor do I know anyone who does. So I cannot test this report for myself. I can ask for a bit of help, though. If you are a Comcast subscriber, please help us out by doing the following simple test.
Are you with me so far? I want you to send yourself four emails and tell me how many actually arrive. The four emails will be very simple, as described below:
- one with “www.meetwithcindy.org” in the subject line, and the words “test #1” in the body
- one with “meetwithcindy.org” in the subject line, and the words “test #2” in the body
- one with “www.meetwithcindy.org” in the body, and the words “test #3” in the subject line
- one with “meetwithcindy.org” in the body, and the words “test #4” in the subject line
Send these messages, wait a little while, then check for incoming messages and find out for yourself. According to our source, you will receive “test #4” but not “test #3”. Apparently the “www.” prefix is necessary to trigger the automatic deletion. If this makes no sense to you, please recall that in the previous episode, the address in question, “afterdowningstreet.org”, triggered the automatic deletion only if it carried this prefix. In other words, emails containing “afterdowningstreet.org” passed through cleanly, while those containing “www.afterdowningstreet.org” were dispatched to the nearest black hole.
Most of the time the prefix “www.” is insignificant; but apparently the prefix is very important in this case. But we don’t know for sure, and that’s why we’re asking you to do some testing.
We don’t know what to expect regarding tests #1 and #2. That’s why we’re asking you to perform them. After we collect more information, we can take it to Comcast and request a correction in their software — or in their censorship policy, as the case may be. The more information we can present, the better it will be — not only for us, but also for the people at Comcast (or Symantec) who will have to solve the problem.
I emphasize that this is not the time to make a lot of noise — not publicly, at least. This is the time for gathering data. We can make noise soon enough, if we can confirm the report we received earlier today.
UPDATE: Go ahead and make some noise if you like. We’ve seen enough to know that something terribly fishy is going on.
CONTACT INFO for COMCAST:
Abuse Dept: phone 856-317-7272 – ext 1 or email: Secure-port25@comcast.net
Mike: phone 856-324-2415 or email abuse_99@comcast.net or email abuse99@gmail.com
Jim Janco [Manager of abuse dept]: cell 856-297-3548
We will post more contact information as soon as possible.
If you’re still not sure about your e-mail provider, or if you’d like to help us gather more data, please participate in our informal study. I’ll be watching this thread to see the results of your testing.
To repeat: Please send yourself four emails as described above, then come here and tell us how many — and which ones — you received.
Thanks, as usual, for your cooperation.
All four of my tests came back to me
Thanks, Pamela.
Anyone else?
I did not receive test #3.
It might be helpful to state exactly which smtp (for sending email) and pop3 (receiving) servers you have in your email application settings.
I don’t know whether different Comcast customers would have different settings but it may help establish any patterns.
i have comcast. Email at donotconcede2@comcast.net
I have Comcast cable and internet service, but not email. I can still threaten to switch my services if they are fucking with our democracy. Just give the word, and 6 or 7 of us will get real upity.
The first time, I’ll give them a pass. The 2nd time, it looks like a pattern.
I’d like to know if they any conservatives had to call Comcast to straighten out their site(s) getting filtered?
I did not receive test 3, got all the others. If anyone has high level contact info at Comcast and Brightmail from before please email them to me at nateg@pobox.com. I discovered this problem yesterday.
Note that this is being blocked on *outgoing* and also incoming. I also sent all 4 to a yahoo account and #3 did not make it *out* of comcast. For smtp from comcast I use port 465 SSL, but I doubt this has anything to do with it. I also sent #3 from yahoo to comcast and it did not get in. yahoo to yahoo, #3 works fine.
If you didn’t get all 4, then there’s something funny going on, period!
Thanks for the warning!
I also had the previous censorship problem- but with COX (who uses the same Brightmail filters as Comcast), which I never would’ve realized what was happening if I hadn’t read about it on here.
I reported it to COX. The Tech Representative refused to believe me and was very rude- so I spoke with a supervisor and showed her, using my COX email and Yahoo email that there were no problems with yahoo but there was a problem with COX, including the emails sent FROM cox email accounts. When I showed her, she admitted that "something" was wrong. I aslo showed her the posts on BradBlog that alerted me to the problem and told her I was about to post my experience on BradBlog also (which I did). She she’d get back to me… which she never did… but in a week or so the problem was eventually corrected.
Now I am also having a problem with this. I sent them, as requested, from my cox acct to my cox and yahoo accts, and received all.
However, when I put it in the email itself (not just the subject), the ones with "www" in the email itself (# 1 and #3) that I send from COX mysteriously disappear and never reach my cox or yahoo accts, but I received the other two that didn’t have the "www".
Also, when sent from yahoo email to cox email, the ones with "www" are received in the spam folder. Without the "www" they are received properly.
Cox/Brightmail is apparently censoring *outgoing* mail again.
I have service with BellSouth (not Comcast) but wanted to do the test out of curiosity. I did not receive Test #3 back. It appears that those with service other than Comcast should be doing this test as well. I will test a half a dozen or so more times over the course of today and tomorrow at different times in the day and let you know the outcome.
I’m with Adelphia, I got everything EXCEPT #3. Looks like they are all using the same blocking software and spam databases. The question is how do these ligitimate sites get into the database.
Comcast customer here… #3 (full webiste name w/ "www" in the body of the message) did not come back… Tried it several times… Very fishy!!!
correction to #10:
I repeated it with same results from cox and yahoo. Same results.
However in my previous post I meant to say #3 (with it in the email body itself) was the only one "disappearing" and only *outgoing* (when I send it from cox email acct). I can receive it in cox email acct but it is marked as spam and delivered in the spam folder.
NO problems with my yahoo acct.
(sorry about the mistake- it was too early in the morning for me!)
when I used http://www.meetwithcindy.org in the body in 5 attempts it went into screened mail. When I used it in the subject line it went through 5 times.
Sending from my non-Comcast work account to my Comcast private account, #1 goes to my inbox, #3 goes to screened mail, and #2 & #4 just disappear.
I have Comcast internet also – sent the 4 emails, and also sent one with the wrong info as you directed. I received back all, including the one with the wrong info, but NOT #3!
I have tried sending mail with http://www.meetwithcindy.org in the subject line and the body. Those messages are held on their server as screened mail and it is not sent to my Outlook Express using the same address. Something is fishy here for sure.
I just tried sending the four e-mails as described, from one HOTMAIL account to another. Got three of the four. Test #3 did not arrive. FISHY? FOR SURE!
SOB BASTRSD$(*$#(*)&#$(U*
I hate comcast
YES I’m being blocked
#3 was screened by comcast incoming…. 3 times
and after about 10 minutes i’ve only gotten one of the ~~ 10 test e-mails I sent myself from two external accounts, i’ll do more thorough testing later if needed
I received emails two and four – but NOT 1 and 3 – they were not even in my "screened" folder!
I sent them from my comcast account to my yahoo – only received 2 & 4. Nothing in the spam filter.
Apparently it’s not just Comcast.
Am using SBC DSL: outgoing server is .mac; outgoing mail server port is 587. Sent all four to SBC Yahoo account. Received 3 out of four. Did not receive Test # 3. What’s up?
"America Stands with Cindy" vigil last night had a supportive 100 plus on one street corner in a very conservative neck of the woods. Let’s all hope the silence has been broken.
I have earthlink. not comcast, but tried the test anyway. I did NOT receive test #3. Tests 1,2 and 4 came through without problems.
I got them all Brad, although I wouldn’t doubt it if they were blocking emails at some point.
See post #23. One hour later I was able to receive Test #3 using the same paths, however the first Test #3 never arrived and is not in spam either.
My local ISP works fine sending/receiving all the email tests. Obviously the corporate ISPs are not any more good for our country and it’s citizens than Walmart.
Dump the mother fuckers and don’t look back. Support your local economies within your community for a change.
I have comcast cable internet and hotmail in Washington State. I recieved all four messages promptly.
All four were sent and received. 8-18-05 11:30 AM PST
Got all four of my test email
All four came back to me here in Grand Blanc, Michigan
I received all 4 emails immediately. 🙂
I have aol and comcast. I did the 4 tests from my aol account to my comcast account and received the emails from tests 1 and 4 to my comcast account while I did not receive tests 2 and 3 to my comcast account.
AOL seems to work fine. I sent all four from one AOL screen name to another and got all four.
I just posted about AOL. I also use a small cable company for my high speed access with AOL (Patriot Media) and so they are OK too I guess? I don’t know which would be responsible for the screening and censorship.
I am in Knoxville TN and use Knology.
I received all four emails.
All 4 came back…maybe they have "fixed" it already.
if you start a petition, i will sign!!
Perhaps it’s a good idea that each of us not only list our service provider, or our email service…but also the state we reside in. I wonder if it could be much more intricate than just the providers.
Then putting a map of confirmation together may be helpful… a us state by state map.
I predicted previously, the last frontier of freedom of speech, the internet, the wild wild west of information, would begin to be attacked by those who want to suppress news…the same people who are suppressing news in the mainstream media.
They know the only thing stopping them from controlling everything is the internet. They have their sites on the internet. WATCH OUT!
I subscribe to Cox in Florida and all 4 came through fine.
Instead of just being happy the problem was "fixed" (if it was), can we find out exactly WHO did this? They did it with downingstreetmemo.org (I think I spelled that right), too, not too long ago. The obligatory explanation of somehow it got in the SPAM database, blah blah blah blah blah……
But twice now? And both with emails that make Bush look bad???
COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT’S A COINCIDENCE! Just like ALL the errors on electronic voting machines go in favor of the GOP! IT’S ALL COINCIDENCE!!! (don’t ya just luv me?)
SBC is sending them okay
I discovered the problem yesterday. Just now, with comcast, this seems to have been fixed for me. You can see my postings above from earlier today.
If you had the problem and it is now fixed, I suggest that you demand from comcast or cox or whoever a) why it happened and b) how long did it happen and c) what assurances are there that it will not happen again.
hey – i got tests #2, #3, and #4 – sending from comcast to yahoo…
test #1 with http://www.meetwithcindy.org in the subject did not show up.
ARGH!!!
thx for the heads up.
I sent the 4 emails to my MSN, Yahoo, Gmail, and my work e-mail address which is run through the Message Labs spam and virus filtering service.
I had no problems with any of them, though I actually expected to see problems with Yahoo!
I got all 4 tests received with no problems.
I have a comcast e-mail address, I sent all 3 e-amils from my hotmail address to comcast address and only received Test 2 and 3. After about an hour test 4 showed up. WTF!!!!
I have a comcast e-mail address, I sent all 3 e-amils from my hotmail address to comcast address and only received Test 2 and 3. After about an hour test 4 showed up. WTF!!!!
I use comcast for email and i received all four emails.
Hi. I just tested the four suggested Emails with Yahoo Email and Yahoo sent the Emails to me with no problem.
What is wrong with Comcast Email? Are they just plain incompentent or malicious?
Yours truly,
James K. Sayre
18 August 2005.
all 4 came back to me
Has anyone thought to try other web addresses in the subject line? I received all four of my test, and I’m on Comcast. You can’t really say they are censoring unless you have tested it with other addresses. Try Truthout.org and moveon.org in the subjectline. Try Freerepublic.com in the subject line. Mostof the spam filtering software is not smart enough to know one from the other.’m a very suspicious person, but having worked with software, I can say that most of it is buggy and worthless.
I GOT ALL 4
I sent the 4 tests from my account at AOL to my account at Yahoo, and then the 4 tests from Yahoo to AOL. Everything received, EXCEPT test #4 from Yahoo to AOL. It disappeared, it didn’t go to spam, nothing. I retried test #4 again from Yahoo to AOL. Still nothing.
All 4 of my tests came back. thanks.
I don’t use a Comcast e-mail account, but they provide my internet access (i.e. cable modem); not sure if that counts. Anyway, I got all 4 test messages.
All four tests worked, so the filter has probably been reprogrammed by now. I did notice a lag time in test #3; i.e., I sent it before test #4 but it appeared in my inbox a little after, but still within a few seconds. Possibly test #3 was run through another step or two in the filter before it was cleared for takeoff. My test was conducted through my office ISP (not Comcast) through my Comcast Internet logon.
I have Cox and they all came back
I have Cox here in CT, and had no delays or problems.
Yahoo e-mail seems to check out okay. All four e-mails received without problem.
I am in Washington State, using Speakeasy DSL and a .mac account. All four tests came through successfully.
I don’t know how many of you know this, but it’s something we discussed in a grad school class on evaluating technology: Cable internet is NOT regulated the same as DSL (The Big Difference). The FCC considers cable an "entertainment" technology, but DSL is a "communication" technology (because it is delivered over telephone wires). So the expectations we have about lack of censorship, or otherwise inhibiting our free communication, apply to telephone technologies, but not cable.
Cable providers can therefore legally inhibit your access to competitors’ sites in searches, as well as steer you to content that they profit from or approve of.
Sorry, but the only power you have is to vote with your feet and go DSL.
I received all four.
Hi, My isp is knology. I am in Ala. I did the tests and all 4 came back. Thank you for all that you are doing.
I have a COVAD account, and did NOT receive the tests sent to myself from that account which contained the www prefix.
I’M PISSED!
I sent the messages to my Yahoo account and received test messages 1, 2, and 4 immediately (and in that order). Message 3 was received about 5 minutes later.
My email provider is Cox, I sent the emails and got all of them back.
I have comcast and I got all four of the tests back.
Sharron
i sent messages via interland (biz addy) — all four came back without error
i sent same four via adelphia (home addy) — all four came back without error
I just did it at 3:55pm EST. I got emails #2 and #4 – it is the www that triggers it.
All four tests received back quickly (did it just now.)
Covad: Sent email to myself from the Covad account, and only received 2 without the www prefix.
I then went to my yahoo account, and sent from yahoo to my Covad account, and received all 4.
So it would appear to me that my Covad account is blocking outgoing emails with the http://www.meetwithcindy.org in either the body or subject.
Earthlink: Received each of the test emails…
All four went through for me to my Yahoo mail.
For those where the ‘www’ blocked email, why not try a test with http://www.blahblahblah.org just to make sure it’s not generic…
1,2 and 3 came back just fine and really fast.
What all of the naysayers don’t know, or not telling, it ComCast is very contentuous with virtual private networks as well. In other words, some ComCast customers are unable to have stable connections to their workplace and when asked about it, they blame it on the company. I know, because I worked the help desk for a major company whose employees in the north and northeast use ComCast. Having said that, I wouldn’t jump the gun and claim censorship, unless you are a disciple of Alex Jones, but poor customer service
I just got the other two 15 minutes later – I wonder if there is a screening hold.
Of the 4 e-mails, I received all of them.
All four made it to my comcast account (Northern VA) from my work (non-comcast) account.
I did all four tests from my yahoo to comcast email accounts and all four went through.No problem.
If you have Cox and want to complain here is the place to send messages to them:
http://survey.cox.com/survey.as...01213173129169
Comcast is my ISP.
I sent the 4 test e-mails and received them all promptly.
All four messages sent by comcast were received correctly 4:20 pm.
All four of my e-mails came through (from my work address to this home address). –ML, NYC
sent all four e-mails to my husband’s e-mail address and received all four.
I have a comcast email at work and sent the 4 emails from my yahoo to the comsat email. Test #2 did not go through…
All four emails to the account provided failed!!!! Still nothing after an hour…
I’m a comcast subscriber, and all 4 emails returned to me promptly. I have spam filtering turned off on my account because I use popfile to despam my mail after it arrives. Check to see if you have spam filters enabled with your ISP 🙂
I use Charter.net for email – my cable provider in Texas. I got all 4 back.
Earthlink is fine. I received all 4 messages. Everyone switch to Earthlink! 🙂
Did not receive #2 – weird…
All four came to me from comcast to an outside accout, as well as TO comcast both from myself and from an outside account…
apparently it may be fixed??
I sent all four emails. My Yahoo address received all four immediately. My Roadrunner address did not receive a single one. Color me shocked. Not.
All four went through on Cox.net
hi,i sent the meet with cindy emails from my hotmail to my dsl account and they went through but when i sent from my dsl to hotmail they disapeared :doze: :doze: :doze:
Our ISP doesn’t seem to be censoring – unfortunately, I don’t have any idea who/what it is. I get my email through the network we have here at work, and the domain name is the county I work for. I’ll check around, though.
L-A
Ann Arbor, MI
I tested this out on Mediacom and discovered they are delaying emails to Cindy’s site http://www.meetwithcindy.org in the subject or body too. I received the emails with meetwithcindy.org in the subject and body immediately. I then sent two more emails with http://www.msn.com in the subject and body and I received those immediately. The ones with http://www.meetwithcindy.org in the subject and body took about twenty minutes before they arrived.
I have Comcast. All four tests came back to me.
Sent all four from my Yahoo to my Comcast.
#3 did NOT come through.
RESENT it from Yahoo to Comcast subject line: "Resend of #3"
It CAME THROUGH!
Hmmm…
"Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean someone’s not really out to get me!"
Well, keep working on it…let’s sleep with one eye open!
No probs on Goggle gmail – who want’s an invitation?
I received all four using Time Warner (Roadrunner) but my Mail program put them in my Junk folder.
Pleasant Hill, CA. Received all four back, HOWEVER I’ve been getting some anomolies in my service. My hobby is collecting conspiracy theories, and Comcast doesn’t let me through to some of the sites–sites which I CAN reach from, say, Yahoo or Google. I’m no tech enough to know why. It might be my security, firewall?
I have Time Warner Cable in Minneapolis, soon to be taken over by Comcast
I received all four, no problems
I sent all tests from my gmail account to my COX account and they were all received properly. I also tried afterdowningstreet.org in different combinations and they too were properly received.
Okay, tried a further test. Sent all four from Roadrunner back to Roadrunner and Yahoo. The emails to Yahoo came in slowly, but they all arrived. The four sent to Roadrunner from the same account never arrived. So, Time Warner Cable has yet to deliver any of the EIGHT emails I sent to that account.
That can’t be a coincidence.
I’m in California and have Mediacom cable. All came through fine.
got all 4 in nc with earthlink
All emails showed up when I included what was said AS WELL as my own little sentence.
When I tried the emails with ONLY the website, I only tried it with test #3 since that seems to be everyones main problem. It took a bit longer, but it came in too.
I tried it and all 4 went through no problem with my comcast account. Are alot of you receiving an "Id-10-T" error message?
All four came in together. No problem.
All four went thought for me with Adelphia.
all 4 test went thru to my email
It certainly looks for sure that something stinks on ice here. I sent the 4 E mails and only one came back. Someone is screwing with our basic liberty in freedom of the press and speech. Ask our "family values experts" in the party and I’m sure that they will say Osama did it.
Lies, ALL LIES!!! That’s what we always get. Doesn’t anyone in the government tell the truth anymore???
I got test 1,3, and 4 sending to Comcast from my gmail address and only test 4 sending from gmail to comcast.
I’m pissed and calling.
All four went through fine for me and I have Comcast
I have a few accounts, one of which is owned by Comcast. The very first test with http://www.meetwithcindy.org in the Subject line went through to the Comcast-owned recipient account, but NONE of the other three did, for about 15 minutes, nor did a totally unrelated-to-Cindy email I sent from the same originating address after my emails started disappearing. However, an email sent _after_ all of those from the webmail version of the originating address DID get through to the Comcast-owned recipient, even though the sender name (not email address) was the same. Now, some 30 minutes after sending it, another missing email just came through. I have the one with meetwithcindy.org (no www) in the subject line, and the one that was unrelated to Cindy. Neither of the emails with meetwithcindy in the BODY have arrived. I am disturbed by this, to say the least. I may have to cancel my Comcast-owned service, which I did not want to have to do. Thanks for bringing this to people’s attention, Brad – but then you are always ahead of things.
When I sent myself the four emails from my cox account to my cox account, tests 3 & 4 came through to my inbox, but tests 1 & 2 went into my spam.
Has anybody been able to talk to a real person? I can’t get anybody.
Melissa
I sent all 4 emails and received all 4. So Comcast didn’t censor me.
I just got all four from Comcast to gmail, but I’m still missing #2 coming inot Comcast.
I sent all 4 through twice and received all. I will keep sending to see if it’s a random selection they censor.
Ok, I have a Gmail and a yahoo
In Gmail – Sending myself Test #1 results in a ‘Message Delivery Failure’ auto-message – But Test #2 goes through a-ok.
Sending Test #1 From Yahoo to Gmail … still waiting for arrival (been ten minutes or so now).
And I’d love to tell you what has happened with Tests #3 & #4 – but the Gmail Server seems to have gone down in the last two minutes – I keep getting "502 server error".
Dododododo.
No I have not gotten a real person yet. What I suspect is that the real problem is with BrightMail (the filter) that all these big ISPs use. Comcast in New England at least (for me, anyway) fixed this problem today. I suspect the others that are still failing have not updated something that BrightMail fixed yet. I have emailed comcast and brightmail and will continue to call them and hound them and demand an explanation for this, find out how long it went on, and try to get assurances that it will not happen again.
I sent the e mails from yahoo to comcast…all arrived…but the ones with Test in the subject line took a little bit longer…
Then I sent all from comcast to my yahoo address, and they all arrived quickly…
I got all four.
All four arrived just fine (sending from one comcast account to another comcast account).
Folks should be careful to notice whether or not filtering might be happening at the level of the local email client program.
I have SBC Yahoo! and got all four.
All emails sent to my comcast accounts were delivered back to me.
Ok, seems the server error was the cause of my problems – all of them go through now (both to myself, and from yahoo to gmail and vice versa).
Cool. Nice to know.
I sent all four emails just as you said and the result was that I received all four of them. I have Comcast for the phone, cable and internet; I very much resent their censorship.
Two of 4 emails were blocked…both of those (#1 and #2) with "meetwithcindy.org" in the subject line, one with and one w/o thw "www" prefix. Those with "meetwithcindy.org", w or w/o the "www" prefix, in the bodt got through OK. So, in summary:
test#1: blocked
test#2: blocked
test#3: OK
test#4: OK
I left a voicemail for the Comcast Abuse Swat Team (CAST?) asking them why they are violating their own policies. May the fleas of 1,000 camels infest their erogenous zones.
Before jumping to any absolute conclusions, check your e-mail filtering. If some of the mail isn’t going thru, try an identical e-mail with a different url (try http://www.ThisIsJustATest.org). It may be nothing more than you (unknowingly) or your ISP filtering mail that appears to be spam.
Not sure what this means, but here are my results, tried several times over a few hours:
I have comcast server, not email:
-comcast – comcast: received only #4
-comcast-yahoo: all four went through
-yahoo-comcast: all four went through
something’s up, for sure. very, very creepy. Thanks to all who post and (I am sure), know more about all this than me.
I got ’em back. I have Comcast.
Maybe just certain areas are affected…?
I received all four of them as well. I have Comcast as my ISP. I sent from both my comcast account, as well as my dialup using AOL and Netzero. I also logged into my company VPN…everything is working…so maybe the sensor was removed? It’s 2:53pm PDT.
All 4 came through vis Time-Warner Road Runner
I am on comcast and all four sent and received.
😥 I live in the Phoenix AZ area. I sent all 4 emails and ALL 4 went automatically to my delete folder when I requested incoming mail! It told me "4 new messages" but they were not in my In Box – they were in my Deleted folder. I use Cox Hi Speed Internet.
All four E-mails receieved without error or filtering.
Service Provider: cox.net
I live in South Florida and I have had Earthlink for about 3 years now.
I sent all four e-mails as directed by your test and all 4 were delivered promptly. 6pm EST
All of my tests came back to me and I subscribe to comcast.
All four worked via local ISP in Tennessee.
As an experienced server administrator I relayed all four emails in different routes all using a Comcast address as both sender and recipient. I find no basis to believe that the subject line is causing any censorship.
It is very possible that by “looping” the mail to the same addresses as both sender and recipient is causing this or enough mail using test#1 (2,3,4 ) has been circulated to flag spam filters on mail servers.
My domain servers utilize Spam-Assassin which updates from several spam databases and the message’s subject line had no effect what so ever. This is a very serious allegation. However, from my limited test I see no conclusive proof.
I rec’d all 4. I’m using Comcast in Atlanta.
UPDATE
I finally received, through comcast, the last three tests 1-3 that I sent. Odd that I would receive #4 immediately, and the first three almost an hour later. Also, still no explaination for first three tests not going through – though maybe filter has been removed as earlier post said.
Used Comcast cable account to mail to smtp.comcast.net on port 25. All four e-mails sailed back quickly to me from mail.comcast.net on port 110.
On a lark, repeated test sending from Yahoo account to Comcast, same results.
I see a few possibilities:
1. The above poster(s) lied about not getting responses – not likely
2. The above poster(s) didn’t wait long enough for responses to come through – likely in a few instances
3. Enough of us have bitched so far that Comcast addressed the issue by the time I tested – prolly not likely.
4. There are unknowable glitches in the network – sort of a Kansasy Intelligent Design Theory. – prolly not likely
4. I’m "blessed" by Comcast and those who had problems are on their "not so blessed" list. – I’ll reserve judgement for now, but it would hardly surprise me.
I am on cox in Louisiana. After my problem this morning there was another local person who also has cox email, who had the same problem.
On my latest test a few minutes ago I received all four this time. It appears to be fixed- for now…
I have yahoo mail andgot all 4 back immediatly.
All four came through for me.
But, thanks for the flag!
It’s always nice to be on top of new games.
Keep up the good work
I have Comcast mail and received all four messages.
I recieved all 4 back. My service is Comcast.
Sent from my yahoo address to my comcast address and got all 4 test messages back right away.
Hmm..Comcast has an interesting board…
J. Michael Cook – Eli Lilly, Dow Chemical, Northrop Grumman, AT&T, Securities Regulation Institute, Catalyst, Chairman of the Accountability Advisory Panel to the Comptroller General of the United States, a member of the Advisory Council of the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (PCAOB)
Brian L. Roberts – Bank of New York
Dr. Judith Rodin – President of the Rockefeller Foundation, Citigroup, Aetna, American Airlines, and EDS
Kenneth J. Bacon – Urban Land Institute, Stanford University, Executive Leadership Council, Real Estate Roundtable, Fannie Mae
Michael I. Sovern – AT&T
S. Decker Anstrom – Landmark Communications, National Cable Television Association
Edward D. Breen – Motorola
Joseph J. Collins – AOL Time Warner
I’m sure none of these cats have benefitted from Bush-Cheney pro-biz policies 😉
I sent all four from a Hotmail account to one of my Comcast accounts using Outlook Express 6 and all four were received less than two minutes later.
However, I don’t use Comcast’s spam filter because I find it blocks far too many messages I want while still allowing actual spam to get through – I use one that’s built into my anti-virus software.
All 4 made it thru
RE: #57. Test #4 finally received from Yahoo to AOL, after 4 hours.
did not receive #4
I received all 4 messages back right away. I am on Road Runner in Durham, NC, using Norton Internet Security 2004 and Outlook Express 6.
Mine went through no problem with SBC.
I even got creative and inserted Cindy’s address as a link. Also tried http://www.bradblog.com for the heck of it. All came through right away.
Note to posters – lots of folks not telling us who their mail server is. That info would be helpful.
I wonder what would happen if the post office started filter everyone’s mail?
sent the 4 emails (via comcast here in LA) to 2 of my email accounts – one personal, one corporate – for a total of 8 emails and recieved them all immediately…no problem.
You may need some controls on this test. For example, what sort of spam filtering is each tester using? Is any spam filtering provided by the ISP?Are they sending messages using HTML as a default (as in incredimail)? Are plain text messages being filtered out? etc. Not denying the possibility of messages being censored, but its imprudent to jump to conclusions when testing isn’t uniform. Incidentally, all 4 of my plain text messages were sent and received. I have no external spam filtering. Norton anti-spam on my machine.
All 4 emails worked fine for me , I sent from my Yahoo account to my Comcast account, and I live in Maple Grove MN
Two tests this morning did not return #3 either time. I checked mail again this afternoon – still no # 3. Re-sent all 4 tests this afternoon and all 4 came thourgh within 30 seconds. They have obviously fixed it. I use Adelphia.
All four came back to me.
Sent from work and all 4 came through (Portland, OR). Ironically, I had found the meetwithcindy site while at work, but when I tried to search for it from home through concrats, it couldn’t find it. :crazy:
I’m with Budd, let’s sleep with one eye open.
I sent all four tests from my Earthlink account to my Comcast account. All four came through instantaneously, without problem.
Has anyone with a ComCast account tried sending other urls in the subject line & message body? It could be the ‘www’ that’s the problem, not the specific content. Just asking.
I sent all 4 to myself & a comcast person and I got all 4 back immediately – additionally sent all 4 again with addition of http:// just to see if that made a diff, & got all 4 immediately.
Using cable service, charter. I’m in Georgia.
I didn’t receive ANY of the emails back to me. This may be the end of Cox Cable for me…… Unfortunately, I don’t have any other choice for anything but dial-up.
Comcast sent all mesages and all were received. I didn’t try it through my yahoo account. Maybe they heard your message.
All 4 were sent, and all 4 were returned, immediately: Localnet.com is the regional ISP, combined with (free) Pegasus e-mail software [no spam filter is in use on my machine, because thankfully I receive almost no spam e-mail]. 9 p.m. Eastern
Sent only #3 to my Earthlink, Yahoo, BellSouth and Gmail accounts. Screened out by my Earthlink spam filter (set to highest setting). Came through to the other three addresses.
I have AOL on Adelphia (in PA). I got all 4 back (but i’m the 172’d post!).
I also sent all 4 via same method to someone else (not to myself). And asked them to reply if they get the email. There’s probably lots of ways to test this. I can also use yahoo’s email through adelphia…
I think it’s important we even thought of this, it keeps them on their toes! Again, beating them to the punch. Great job! Intelligent thinkers…
aol is aok. 6 or 7 my ass.
I am with a local ISP called Jersey.net here in new jersey and I tried the test and got all four of the emails.
I have comcast service and yahoo mail. Did the four tests plus another two where I repeated #’s 3 & 4 without the word test in the subject line. I got all six back.
Smells fishy though, from others’ experiences.
-M
I successfully received all messages sent to and from all my accounts using:
charter
yahoo
gmail
i rec’d all 4 of ’em… i have comcast isp and sound internet as email.
Tried all 4 tests, and, as of this comment, all 4 were delivered.
All 4 went through with no problems.
I oppose the Bush Family Evil Empire. I support Cindy and think that she and Fitzgerald are the best hope we have of escaping Fascism. But…
The symptoms you report could simply be the result of spam filters. An automated spam filtering system is more likely to take note of text that appears in the subject than if it appears in the body. An automated system that tracks all e-mail for all users could not hope to keep global statistics of message content (to see if many mails are appearing with the same content) but could conceivably keep track of message subjects ("oooh, shitloads of mail from many different senders to many different recipients with the subject "Make Money Fast" – I bet that’s spam).
As the old saying goes: "Never attribute to malice that which is attributable to incompetence." As the revised version goes: "Never attribute to malice that which is attributable to badly-written software." As the revised, revised version goes: "Never attribute to malice that which is attributable to incompetence or software UNLESS a Bush is involved, then you can be certain that it is attributable to pure fucking evil."
All four of my test messages came back to me.
Kathy at Liberty Street
I received all four emails.
I wouldn’t blame comcast directly for this as it’s entirely possible that one of the following scenarios was/is at work:
#1: an employee of brightmail maliciously adds to the spam filter update the url of their political "enemies".
#2: a situation similar to local republican operatives slamming the local democratic party’s "get out the vote" phone lines on election day. i.e. filing thousands of bot-produced spam complaints causing the url to be listed as a high spam content string.
I’m betting twenty bucks it’s something like #2.
All 4 emails came back fine. (comcast.net user)
I have Charter Communications, and all four went through with no problem.
Sending emails through Yahoo to Yahoo from UPENN.edu. Not sure on the ISP. Sitememeter for Phillybits says UPENN.edu so I honestly don’t know.
Test 1 – OK
Test 2 – OK
Test 3 – OK
Test 4 – OK
I have COX and Tucson and I received all 4 through my POP3 COX account.
All 4 made it through Time Warner Cable, Southern Tier New York fine…. (RoadRunner)
OOPS, "COX in Tucson"
Hotmail let me receive all 4.
Well, I did several tests.
Sent from Earthlink to Comcast via Outlook Express, received via webmail
— all four received
Sent from Hotmail to Comcast via Outlook Express, received via comcast webmail
— all four received
Sent from Hotmail to Yahoo via Outlook Express, received on yahoo webmail page
— all four received.
I will say that when I first tried to sent to Comcast from hotmail, number three did get bounced back as "non-deliverable", but I tried again, and it went through.
I’m in Richmond, VA, and use Comcast High Speed Internet. (because I have no choice, if I want cable internet!)
Looks like if there was a problem, they did something about it earlier today…. Thanks for keeping an eye out!
Oh, and a follow up to my note above. All were sent from Earthlink or Hotmail through Outlook Express. These are the mail server settings!
Hotmail is an HTTP server:
http://services.msn.com/svcs/ho...l/httpmail.asp
Earthlink outgoing mail (STMP):
smtpauth.earthlink.net
All four tests went through OK.
All four tests came in OK.
Got all four no problem. Most of the spam gets filtered out, though…
I’m on Comcast in Denver.
All four went through.
Hi,
I was able to send and receive all 4 variations………
Tom
Looks like it’s fixed. I sent all four messages from my Yahoo acct to my Comcast acct and they made it fine.
😎
I have comcast and was able to send fine to and from.
Is this something that happens with the Comcast spam filter is activated, or does it happing anyway? I get a ton of spam from M$ zombies, but I would never trust an ISP to filter my email.
The test worked just fine for me. All four were received. I dumped Comcast last year. The problems were constant. I use SBC as my provider.
All 4 received here in CA.
I sent all 4 from both Yahoo and AOL accounts to my 5 Comcast mailboxes. All came through without a hitch.
Seems like overkill, but I was going to raise ungodly hell with Comcast if they were censoring me.
Thanks for the heads up.
All 4 tests (sent from a Hotmail account to my Comcast address) went through fine.
All four messages received within couple of minutes. Thanks.
Sent all 4 of the them to my Comcast email account, all 4 made it right away. More than likely all the cindy*.com addys got added into a ‘spam blackbox’ like ICE et al. and caused the trouble.
You guys should read up on how spam filtering REALLY works.
I tried the test today aug 19th. I sent from my work email account to both my Charter and my Gmail accounts and received all four emails in each account.
I think to keep an eye on the ISP’s we should CC: another email account of our own when sending out emails that are likely to be blocked just to check to see they are getting through.
Hey, all you unthinking idiots! It can’t be censorship in any real way if it’s not the government doing it. Comcast has made a decision and you as a consumer can make your own decision to cease your relationship with them. Real censorship carries with it the threat of force. Grow up and quit whining.
Brad is a fucking moron! A little emial trouble(probably caused by the list being put on a "spam block" either by someone who doesn’t like the the cause or by someone who forgot they signed up and turned it in for spam.) and he jumps to the conclusion that it has to be censorship. Jeez what a crock.
Wow, talk about a load of complete and utter bullshit. Lots of jumping to conclusions, retarded logic and a retard blogger just to make things retarded on all fronts. Stupid lefties, get back to your villages.
I am on Comcast and received all four emails.
I find it curious that two progressive web sites within one month were blocked by Brightmail (the spam system all these ISPs use). I got a call back from somebody in the abuse department of comcast. He assures me that this is a serious issue and says they are working with Brightmail. I then tried to get somebody in the Brightmail office of Symantec, but you have to have a name for them to put you through to somebody. I asked for the Brightmail product manager but they guy answering the phone doesn’t know who that is. He claims not to know who the managers there are even though there are only about 100 people in that office. So basically they don’t want to talk to anybody. He gave me the investigation@review.symantec.com email address to complain to but they have not answered two emails thus far.
If any of you guys has a name in Symantec I’d like to have it. By the way, I asked the abuse guy if any other political sites other than these two had this problem and he said no – those were all.
Hey Jackass! You might try finding the other brain cell so you can think to pull your INCORRECT and INFLAMITORY information off your site before Comcast comes after you for Libel!
THAT’S a cause I’d donate to!
If you can think this deep, better to be called an idiot and keep your mouth than to open it and remove all doubt.
Now crawl back into your self-important hole…
I sent 5 emails (the four above and a fifth for control purposes) from a comcast account to a gmail account.
I received test #1 and my control email.
Sent the 4 and received all 4 back, no problem.
Just did the comcast test (in chicago) and quickly got all 4. perhaps this test is ‘complete and utter bullshit’, as the eloquent Mister Head pointed out (#214). beats taking it on faith and ideology that comcast, or any other corporation, is our pal.
I like the great defenses by the conservatives above: "SHUTUP!". That”s Bill O’Reilly’s #1 intelligent rebuttle, "SHUTUP!"
OK, we’ll stop testing emails…all you had to do was say "SHUTUP"!!! Jeez……
Question to those above who are against testing emails: "If it’s SPAM software, how come sometimes it filters them, sometimes it doesn’t? And why is it filtering anything at all? How come some of the emails are not even in a SPAM folder?"
You’ve been eating too mush SPAM! (see Monty Python).
I sent five to my Comcast account from my Yahoo account! Four the way you stated and one control! All five made it through! Comcast does alot of real strange things like go off line for an hour or more every day and on and off for two to five minutes at different times every day! Euless, TEXAS!! Bush needs to be removed from this planet, because he is sure in a different world then we are!! Keep up the good work! Thanks, Ron y:
I SENT AN EMAIL TO CINDY SHEEHAN SUPPORTING HER AND WISHING HER WELL DUE TO HER SON’S DEATH IN IRAQ AND WISHING CINDY AND HER FAMILY STRENGTH AND PEACE DURING THIS DIFFICULT TIME.
SHE IS A A VERY STRONG PERSON WHO NOW HAS AN INCREDIBLE FOLLOWING BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO MEET WITH THE PRESIDENT.
I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH HER. APPARENTLY THAT MESSAGE NEVER GOT TO HER.
WE DO HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THE UNITED STATES AND THERE SHOULD BE NO CENSORSHIP UNLESS IT INVOLVES SPAM WHICH I RECEIVE REGULARLY ON MY CARRIER, AOL. I GO TO MY SPAM FOLDER AND HIT SHIFT DELETE OF ALL SPAM! I
IF CINDY DOESN’T WANT EMAILS IN SUPPORT OF HER, THAT SHOULD BE HER DECISION!!!
ALL MY BEST TO CINDY AND HER FAMILY.
PEACE,
KATHY HODGE
I have adelphia.net on the east coast
and all came thru ok.
The untold story of Cindy Sheehan.
Until it was interrupted by Katrina, the coverage of Cindy Sheehan was
non-stop. Every news program showed her screaming at President Bush – with tears streaming down her face. It is interesting that the press gives her so much air time without any investigation into her background. Let’s take a look.
This is a case of VLWM bias. (Vast Left Wing Media).
Cindy claims, and the press is quick to acknowledge, her title as the
world’s most suffering Mom. However, what isn’t mentioned is that Cindy
divorced her first husband and left her son with him to be raised while she became a political hack for the Democrat Party.
She had very little to do with her son as he grew up. His father
remarried and his new wife became Kacey’s mother – raising and loving him.
Meanwhile, Cincy remarried.
How many news stations carried their interview? Not many.
So, the son dies in Iraq and then Cindy shows up to make a stink. She gets an audience with Bush. That was not enough. She goes to Crawford and demands another audience. How many news stations carried the ongoing saga of Cindy? Practically all of them.
Cindy didn’t care about her son. She let another woman raise him.
Cindy doesn’t care about the other soldiers in Iraq.
Cindy cares about her liberal, feminist agenda.
She’s using the death of her son to lobby against Republicans and Bush.
And the press is helping her.
And now, Cindy’s SECOND husband has filed for divorce – citing her
unbelievable political abuse of her family as the issue.
Cindy is a feminist opportunist who did not have the sense of
responsibility to raise her own son. Her first husband bailed out and now her second husband is fed up with Cindy.
When will the rest of America have enough of this political hack?
The untold story of Cindy Sheehan.
Until it was interrupted by Katrina, the coverage of Cindy Sheehan was
non-stop. Every news program showed her screaming at President Bush – with tears streaming down her face. It is interesting that the press gives her so much air time without any investigation into her background. Let’s take a look.
This is a case of VLWM bias. (Vast Left Wing Media).
Cindy claims, and the press is quick to acknowledge, her title as the
world’s most suffering Mom. However, what isn’t mentioned is that Cindy
divorced her first husband and left her son with him to be raised while she became a political hack for the Democrat Party.
She had very little to do with her son as he grew up. His father
remarried and his new wife became Kacey’s mother – raising and loving him.
Meanwhile, Cincy remarried.
How many news stations carried their interview? Not many.
So, the son dies in Iraq and then Cindy shows up to make a stink. She gets an audience with Bush. That was not enough. She goes to Crawford and demands another audience. How many news stations carried the ongoing saga of Cindy? Practically all of them.
Cindy didn’t care about her son. She let another woman raise him.
Cindy doesn’t care about the other soldiers in Iraq.
Cindy cares about her liberal, feminist agenda.
She’s using the death of her son to lobby against Republicans and Bush.
And the press is helping her.
And now, Cindy’s SECOND husband has filed for divorce – citing her
unbelievable political abuse of her family as the issue.
Cindy is a feminist opportunist who did not have the sense of
responsibility to raise her own son. Her first husband bailed out and now her second husband is fed up with Cindy.
When will the rest of America have enough of this political hack?
😛 Cindy Sheehan needs to go finger herself; Then, think about what her son did for us; not what she can do for her 15 minutes. Get over yourself bitch, there are more (if you might stop & truely think of your sons sacrifice), or, less important issues to deal with than your granola eatin, tree huggin crap
Tried all four test from my comcast E-mail to my Yahoo and received all four within a few min. Then sent all four test’s to my comcast acc from my Yahoo add and received all four test’s with in a few minutes.
Tried all four test from my comcast E-mail to my Yahoo and received all four within a few min. Then sent all four test’s to my comcast acc from my Yahoo add and received all four test’s with in a few minutes.
Will, you help post this message around the net. Blogs, groups, newsletters,
etc.
Email Disappearing Without a Trace
Yahoo and Yahoogroups are censoring emails
Seems that yahoo is not the only one doing this though.
Google search is deleting some sites from the search resultsi. AOL and Comcast
are disappearing email.
They are all in violation of the BILL OF RIGHTS and the ideas of free speech..
Email Disappearing Without a Trace
New Form Of Internet Censorship
By Pamela May 4, 2006
Recently I have been experiencing great difficulty in getting information to you
all again. For the third time this week I have written entire articles, sent
them through my internet providers (AOL and Comcast) got a confirmation that the
email was sent, and then the entire email vanished with no trace in my outbox or
inbox.
I have lost email before while "in the process of writing it". We all have.
Usually this happens when the entire connection was lost and the service needed
to be re-contacted. But never before have I lost email after it was confirmed
sent, with no trace of it in my sent box. I have sent mail before that was
returned to me for various errors in email addresses I sent mail to. But the
email was still sent to other recipients of that email. I have also been blocked
from sending email and got error messages for various email address reasons. But
never before has anything like this happened to where there was a confirmation
of mail being sent, then it is not sent, and no record at all shows in my out
box that the email ever existed.
This is becoming a greater concern to me, especially with the internet war they
are staging right now in order to silence many activist sites and drive out
small start up companies that threaten big business Internet monopolies. It is
obvious to me that certain links used in information that is shared via email is
being flagged for confiscation so that it is neither received ,nor is a record
left in our boxes. We either have to re-write the whole thing or just forget
writing it again if we have no back up record of that work.
Luckily I saved the recent information on microwave ovens I wrote today in a
word file so I would not have to painstakingly re-write it again like I had to
with the article on Babies being targeted with the FluMist vaccines. Because
once again, I wrote the entire piece, inserted my group email addresses, pressed
send, got the confirmation window the email was sent, then poof, no article in
my outbox or inbox.
I do believe our email is being censored and has been for a quite a while now.
Thus the reason why they earnestly wanted to (after the fact) pass laws that
allow them to do it legally (spy on Americans, on American soil, via
warrant-less and groundless tracking of our email, snail mail, phones, etc) so
we would have no recourse for this gross violation of our rights to privacy and
our rights to freedom of speech.
Am I sharing classified information that is a national threat? Hardly, All of
the information in my work is a matter of PUBLIC records. But when we see the
information being sent it is a matter of public records that they do NOT want
the public IN LARGER NUMBERS TO SEE it looks like they will go to any extremes
and they will pull a stunt like this by just confiscating the whole thing while
leaving no record behind.
How do we prove it? We can’t, if there is NO proof the email ever existed in our
records we have nothing for proof. What about people who do not save their sent
email or send their emails to themselves too? How do they know what is really
being sent?
Did I learn from these recent experiences? No…Stupid me. This just happened
again on my other account with Comcast. I was talking on the phone with my
Mother sharing with her an email I had just written. Stupid me-I didn’t save it
in Word. Didn’t think I needed to as this has NEVER happened on my Comcast
account. Right after I sent that email- it vanished from all my email records.
No error message, nothing- it was gone. I did not get it in my AOL account email
box either. I sent it to myself. If I would not have read it to someone else no
one but me would have ever known it existed. I do not know "who" is getting what
I send when these articles just dissappear. But I am angry beyond belief to
continue to see efforts ramped up by these internet provider giants to silence
people who are trying to help others learn many of these truths.
While I am not naive enough to not know they will target people like me who
dares to tell the truth about mainstream medicine, what our OWN laws allow them
to do to us, and what our own government is really doing.
It is still unnerving to see them in action and know that they do have the right
to arrest anyone just based upon "suspicion." They do have the right to trash
our homes, and confiscate anything they like without a warrant and without ANY
evidence and they can DETAIN us as long as they like while not having filed ONE
CHARGE against us. This used to be called false imprisonment. But in la-la
government terror war land they call it detainment.
This disallows us the right to hire an attorney who can start to help us mount a
defense against the charges. How can we hire any lawyer if no charges are filed
against us yet? What does that lawyer have to go from to mount any defense when
no charges are yet made? Indeed, how can anyone fight against what they are not
told they are being accused of? Ask hundreds of detainees in Iraq who have been
detained for several YEARS now,with no charges filed against them, what they
think of this rogue system of law?
What is sad to me is how the American people continue to look away as the truth
tellers are being silenced, lives destroyed, and locked up. We have talked about
these people who are facing forced mental evaluations because they dared to put
up a poster that said, Bush Step Down."
We need to see that if American’s will look away as so-called detainees are
rotting away in a war prison with not ONE charge filed against them yet, and
with no evidence to justify locking them up, then why would we be naive enough
to not think they would look away as we are locked up one by one?
You all may remember quite some time ago when I had difficulty sending another
email. Each time I tried to send that important article I got error message
after error message. Finally I had to transfer the whole article in a word file
and disable all the links to get it through. Many of you told me you could not
get those links to work after pasting them into your web browsers. Well, that
worked rather well for them to prevent you from seeing evidence in those links
didn’t it? That has not happened again since then. I ousted them when I finally
got that email sent and told you all what happened.
But this is different. It is not the same as losing your internet connection
while writing an email, nor is it the same as knowing the email will not be sent
through getting non-stop error messages in return. This is direct sabotage after
they tell us they sent the email,(thus the confirmation button) and give no
error messages, and then confiscate the email leaving no record behind. It is a
direct violation of my rights to free speech, but with no proof other then my
word files now, what leg do I have to stand on?
If you have experienced this too please let me know. If not, let others know
what is happening so they can safeguard their work and not lose all their
efforts in the process.
Take care, be well, and stay informed
God Bless
Pamela
PS: I am still trying to send you information on the dangers of microwave ovens.
Wish me luck. >sigh
mainly of revisited information and links I had already sent many of you several
years ago. What has changed in this time frame to make this NOT new information
such a threat? You tell me.
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Yahoogroups is disappearing messages to the Alternative Medicine Forum group and
other groups again. Messages
which have a content that isn’t politically correct are going missing.
This isn’t the first time that such practices, as well as other
things, have been used against this group as well as other groups. In
fact, I suspect that the problem is probably quite widespread, and has
been ongoing in one form or another, for quite some time now.
Please be aware of the situation and alert others and other groups.
Sometimes, I have had to post the same message to the group as many as
5 or 6 times to finally get one copy to slip through. Other simply disappear.
All would have been considered not politically correct. It seems that
Yahoogroups is, once again,
politically censoring messages in violation of free speech.
Other times the message will get posted to the group’s message section but then
it seems that it doesn’t go out as group email to the members.
It appears that there is some type of screening program that screens/searches
for certain
keywords in messages being posted to Yahoogroups and screened once again all
messages leaving Yahoogroups. Those messages being screened out then seem to
disappear.
Please pass this information on.