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Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern smackdowned of Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld during an event in Atlanta yesterday. During a Q&A period, McGovern demanded answers for a few of Rumsfeld’s more specious claims.
Almost certainly, you have already seen or heard highlights of this clip. This version from MSNBC’s Countdown contains the full 4 minute exchange between Rumsfeld and McGovern as well various other protesters being roughly handled and removed from the venue. Richard Wolffe of Newsweek provides analysis of the political fallout for Rumsfeld and the Bush Administration.
UPDATE: Text transcript here…
FURTHER UPDATE: Brad conducted an hourlong interview McGovern on The BRAD SHOW in June of 2005 just prior to his congressional testimony on the Downing Street Memos. It was a fascinating interview, if we may say so ourselves. Audio archive [MP3] or text transcript of the interview.
HOW LONG WILL the LIES GO ON
HOW LONG WILL WE PUT UP WITH the BUSH B.S.
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THANK YOU, Mr. McGovern!
For my fellow Floridians who might want a chance to do a little smackdown of their own this coming Monday, I just got this email:
"President George Bush will be attending a fundraiser for Republican Congressman Clay Shaw on Monday, May 8th, at the home of Monica and Mike Maroone, 909 Poinciana Drive, Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Let our voices be heard in response!!
We want affordable and accssible health care.
We want high paying, high quality jobs.
We want independence from foreign oil.
Meeting Place:
Las Olas Citgo Service Station
2366 E. Las Olas Boulevard
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301
Meeting Date and Time:
Monday, May 8th
4:00 – 6:00
Bring Your Own Signs!!
Please forward to your organizations, friends, allies, etc!!
More information:
http://www.nrcc.org/nrcc_conte nts/events/events/"
I forsee a growing stream, torrent, and ocean of resistance and protest of the republican dictatorship.
Courts are getting ready to do the deed. The DC Court of Appeals said of the government position in a recent case:
"Your argument makes no sense," U.S. Circuit Judge Harry T. Edwards told the lawyer for the Federal Communications Commission, Jacob Lewis. "When you go back to the office, have a big chuckle. I’m not missing this. This is ridiculous. Counsel!" (link here).
Let the cleansing begin … Rummy, The Dick, The Bush, and the rest of the republican dictatorship is going down.
This is so good, so goddamn true.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050506Z.shtml
This one word kind of captures it all, really. All the incompetence, all the stubbornness, all the arrogance, all the lies, all the brutality, all the fucking blind WRONGNESS that is eating up this country like a thick, sodden, treasonous, diseased blanket.
Can we PLEASE, PLEASE lock these people UP already & throw away the key.
WHEN? WHENWHENWHENWHENWHEN??????
OFF TOPIC ALERT!
Porter Goss just resigned.
Wonder if it has anything to do with the prostitution scandal? I just heard today that the Watergate hotel got subpeonas….
What is quite alarming is when a murmur of dissent makes itself known and the Bush loyalists, as evidenced by those in the audience, try to either drown out McGovern or have him physically removed from the room. That would have made Joseph Goebbels proud to have seen that happen. Members of the media, such as Paula Zahn of CNN, tried to give Rumsfeld credit for allowing him to stay when the truth [a taboo word for this administration] is that Rumsfeld, in all likelihood, knew that it wouldn’t look too good for people, either in the audience or on television, to see McGovern dragged out of that room. The hope is that people will become inspired by what McGovern and Colbert have done and will call the administration on all the lies that they have told to the American people and to the world.
Just to let you know: Porter Goss has resigned as director of the CIA
Since the Colbert press/president dinner thing was brought up in the video above as well as several posts and I couldn’t find a BradBlog thread specifically for it, here’s a link to the Colbert video:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/29.html
And the aftermath:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/03.html#a8146
Move the Rummy stuff over here,….
Rumsfeld,… who do you think you are fooling,…
His speech in Atlanta,..
when questioned by Ray McGovern
the ex-CIA man,…
Rumsfeld stated,….
"I’m not in the intelligence business"
is that a fact – Rummy,..
What is the DIA
The Defence INTELLIGENCE Agency
Who runs that operation ?
Rummy,… what is the Office of Special Plans ?
Who started and ran that – Rummy
Or should these questions be directed to
to Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Fieth ?
Operations of Special Plans started by Rummy : Wikipedia : Link
Operation of Special Plans : Rummy’s Intelligence Agency : UK Guardian
Again Rummy,… Atlanta speech,…
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/04/rumsfeld-called-out/
Prevaricating Liar !!!!!
They POLITICIZED our intelligence agencies,…
so "Christian Soldiers Could March to the Sounds of
their Drums – Off to this Wonderful WAR." $$$$$$$ !
Rummy and bu$hco may try to rewrite history,…
these buffoons do not deserve the pass to do so.
the more "terra’ist" the more profits
cruise missile – $1 million dollars
body armor – $500
bodybag – $30
permanent WAR PRICELESS
New "Iraqi Army" boot-camp graduates revolt,…
Hey Rummy,.. "as they stand up we stand down",…
when does that happen,…. NEVER ? ! ? ! ? !
100 Iraqi battalions ready to roll,… get real.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/01/AR2006050100854.html
How do you say posterior end in Spanish,… ?
Link to new song
Old Turk:
ass·hole (shl)
1. vulgarismo culo, ojete m.
2. (persona) cabrón m., hijo de puta, gilipollas m. f.
Comprendre’ – THX
"how long can they continue" indeed, and "how are they not being held accountable" (paraphrased).. how? because the MSM is STILL playing word games, and NOT pointing out all the facts to the sheeple. Most people aren’t smart enough (it seems) to put the pieces together.. that’s what the "liberal media" is supposed to be doing.
The anwser to "how long will they get away with this" is simple.. "until the MSM stops protecting the liars and starts laying out the facts (that are sepperated over many months up to years).
I saw a very misleading headline today.. blaming the "CIA for intellegence failures leading up to Sept. 11, 2001".. yet, we KNOW Shrubby was getting daily briefings that were sounding very loud alarms. Of course, we have the allegations that some people were told not to fly, and we have the millions and millions in stocks so it seems SOMEONE knew -exactly- what was going on. Blaming "intellegence failures" at this stage is to show that some in the MSM are still trying to protect the criminals. Until that stops, we’re screwed (we won’t have enough informed/pissed off people to make serious change).
Kind of like how Corporate America is putting us back into slave-worker conditions, slowy but surely. We had a Senior Vice President tell us (in a big meeting) the other day, when asked "there’s entirely too much work for us to get done in 40 hours a week".. (the response) "we need you to be passionate, we need you to put in as many hours as it takes to get the job done".. So, in a nut shell, living in communities and being members of a society is forcing you to work HARDER, not less. Corporate America doesn’t want to invest back into the company, doesn’t want to "have employees" who can enjoy the fruits of an advanced society, they want unlimited labor for "salaries".. as if somehow, getting a salary means it’s ok to no longer have a life. If I wanted to give up my life for a paycheck, I’d join the military. Until Americans get their heads out of their asses and realize that a society is meant to make life EASIER, not harder, we’re all screwed. Corporate America has been successful in making us terrified of "losing our jobs", which for a lot of us, means "losing everything". Government is supposed to PROTECT us from that, not facilitate it.
Republicans, by nature, favor unregulated markets where humans take a back seat to profits. Any "Dem" that supports that same end is no true Democrat. MOST of the Dems in office today are basically the Republicans of 20 years ago.. it’s time for a drastic "leftifying" of the U.S. if we want to go back to enjoying our lives.. and it starts with the execution of this Administration for High Treason.
Savantster
"Corporate America has been successful in making us terrified of "losing our jobs", which for a lot of us, means "losing everything"."
Truer words have not been spoken!
It is a good thing Ray McGovern is a person of notoriety or he would have been tossed from the Rummy speech in Atlanta too.
The Associated Press has the audacity to call ex- CIA man Ray McGovern a "heckler" at this Rummy Atlanta speech. Here a major media outlet headlines their article "McGovern Heckles Rummy",..rather than "McGovern Questions Rummy",…. Rummy and bu$$hco lead this country into a false war,… under false pretenses,… they should be made to answer for this crime.
Associated Press article of Rummy’s Atlanta speech : Link
Our government leads us into a false war in Iraq
and now contemplates leading us into a false war in Iran once again with grossly misleading propaganda.
The neocon fascists in the audience physically assault those who protest and voice concern about these governmental policies. America travels the slippery slope towards a Fascist State.
Neocon Fascists assault war protesters : Link
A voice of dissent,..
A voice that speaks truth to power,..
Is a voice that must be silenced.
Old Turk
This morning the Sacramento Bee covered the Porter Goss resignation and as a reason repeated the phrase "intelligence failures over Iraq and the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks."
When will they ever own up to the fact that there were no failures – the info was there:
9/11 – the daily briefing Bush ignored.
Iraq – the hand picking of intell. which only served Bush’s agenda – The downing street memo.
These guys must think Ray Mcgovern is Jason from the Halloween series. He just seems to be everywhere and won’t die. Hooray protesters. Keep turning up the heat!
Rummy,… how’s it going in Iraq,…
that insurgency well under control ?
_________________
Helicopter shot down,..
shoulder fired ground to air missile,…
6 Blackwater contractors killed.
(clink link,.. then click BBC News Video-top right)
Heli shot-down : grd/air missile : video link
____________________
British helicopter shotdown in Basra,.. by an
ground to air missile,.. Basra an area where British
troop were once welcome,.. not so friendly any
more.
(click link,.. then video link below picture of soldier)
BBC News in Basra : heli shotdown : video link
BB2 – Comment # 21,…
Downing Street Memo link,…
NICE LINK ! THX !
More (Moore) details of Basra violence,…
after British helicopter shot-down by
ground to air missile.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=6750
Get the occupation forces off their ground,..
send in UN Peacekeeping Forces.
New anti war movie being released,..
click link for trailer :
Trailer to new anti war movie : link
How’s it going in Iraq Rummy,…. ?
200,000 AK-47 assault weapons go missing,…
US intended they be used by Iraqi security forces
now missing,… feared in hands of al-Qaeda.
US military forces spread too thin,.. out sourcing
by Rummy causing jepordy to American soldiers.
These 200,000 missing AK-47 assault rifels will
likely be used to kill American troops.
200,000 missing AK-47’s likely in hands of al-Qaeda : link
A bufoon is running the Pentagon.
Rough draft posted above,..
not sure how that happened.
How’s it going in Iraq Rummy,…. ?
200,000 AK-47 assault weapons go missing,…
US intended they be used by Iraqi security forces
now missing,… feared in hands of al-Qaeda.
US military forces spread too thin,.. out sourcing
by Rummy causing jeopardy to American soldiers.
These 200,000 missing AK-47 assault rifles will
likely be used to kill American troops.
200,000 AK-47’s go missing / a danger to US troops : link
A buffoon is running the Pentagon.
The Pentagon is eager to get more boots on the
ground in Iraq to fight that "just war". An Army
recruiter accepts an 18yr old severely autistic boy
and signs a 4 year contract to join the Army.
Is the Pentagon this desperate for warm bodies ?
Army recruiter signs 4yr, contract with 18yr. old autistic boy : link
Pentagon/Rummy = atrocious
The right-wing attack machine is unleashed on Ray McGovern,…
From the blog,.. "Unclaimed Territory"
by,… Glenn Greenwald.
Unclaimed Territory – by Glenn Greenwald
About Me
Name:Glenn Greenwald
For the past 10 years, I was a litigator in NYC specializing in First Amendment challenges (including some of the highest-profile free speech cases over the past few years), civil rights cases, and corporate and security fraud matters
Friday, May 05, 2006
Time to smear the latest Bush critic
Yesterday, Ray McGovern — an American citizen with a 27-year career as a CIA analyst behind him — stood up at a speech given by Donald Rumsfeld and aggressively questioned Rumsfeld on various statements Rumsfeld made regarding Iraq. McGovern specifically questioned Rumsfeld about this claim made in March, 2003: "We know where [the WMD] are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." We all know what happens to people, including those with a long history of government service, who publicly embarrass the administration – it’s time for a nice heap of character smear.
Today, Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds praises and links to an investigation into McGovern’s "background" which was undertaken by The Gateway Pundit. Reynolds asks: "Why don’t the Big Media do this kind of thing?"
What is it that Gateway Pundit’s investigation revealed about McGovern that prompted Reynolds’ admiration, along with his lament that "Big Media" failed to issue a similar report? To begin with, in the headlines of Gateway Pundit’s post, we learn right away that McGovern is a"nutjob," as in: "Nutjob Ray McGovern Heckles Rummy."
But that revelation is just the beginning. Gateway Pundit also informs us that McGovern is a "certified nutcase" who "has a trail of lunatic behavior a mile long." G.P. also uncovered evidence conclusively demonstrating that McGovern is a "moonbat." I agree with Instapundit- what right does the MSM have to keep this important information from us?
What is the evidence which supports these substantive allegations? G.P. first cites a website – something called PrisonPlanet.com – with the headline: "Government May be Manufacturing Fake Terrorism," presumably to imply that McGovern believes that Islamic terrorist attacks are perpetrated by the U.S. Government. In fact, the website merely quotes McGovern as accusing the administration and its supporters of manipulating terrorist threats in order to maximize their power and urging skepticism about government statements in the event that another terrorist attack prompts efforts to impose martial law.
McGovern has also said that the desire for control over oil and the desire by some "zionists" to benefit Israel were factors influencing the U.S. invasion of Iraq — views which apparently makes him both crazy and anti-Semitic. Moreover, McGovern travelled to Iraq as part of what G.P. calls a "hate America freakshow" that included "pedophile" (not to mention former United States Marine officer and aide to General Norman Schwarzkopf) Scott Ritter, whose pre-war claims about Iraq (in stark contrast to Instapundit, among others) proved to be entirely true. G.P. also uncovered the highly incriminating fact that McGovern (like 60% of Americans) also opposes the war in Iraq and, as a result, has attended various anti-war events. G.P. also links to "Allahpundit" over at Hot Air, Michelle Malkin’s new venture, where the same "charges" are repeated.
So that’s the sum of the evidence that the career CIA analyst McGovern is a "nutjob," a "moonbat," and a "certified nutcase" with a "trail of lunatic behavior a mile long" – he opposes the war in Iraq, associates with former U.S. Marine Scott Ritter, and believes that oil and Israel were factors in why we invaded Iraq. All of that leads Instapundit to lament that "Big Media" doesn’t do more of this — namely, smear people with playground epithets and accuse them of being mentally ill if they engage in anti-war activism or if they question the President.
Neither Instapudnit, Gateway Pundit, nor Allah address the substantive point — that Donald Rumsfeld told the country that he "knows" where WMDs are, and when confronted by McGovern with that false statement, denied that he made it. That fact is, of course, nowhere near as important as engaging in a vicious and frenzied character smear of yet another American who spent his entire career in service to his country and yet has his patriotism and mental health called into question by virtue of standing up to the administration. McGovern is in good company — along with Richard Clarke, Paul O’Neill, Joe Wilson, Howard Dean, Al Gore, the war critic Generals, and all of the other corrupt, mentally ill and/or unpatriotic Americans whose motives and/or mental health have been similarly maligned after standing up to the administration.
That’s the ugly modus operandi of so many Bush defenders. When an American stands up and aggressively criticizes the President and his policies, they immediately insist that there must be something severely wrong with their character or mental state. Ignoring the criticism itself, they try to maul the messenger. Ray McGovern should wear those smears, coming from these particular circles, as a badge of honor.
UPDATE: Needless to say, LGF has joined in the fun, informing us that McGovern is a "radical leftist, Jew hating creep." Aside from reflecting the typical rage that gets unleashed towards Bush critics, in terms of assessing the validity of McGovern’s accusations against Rumsfeld, how does any of this smearing matter?
Not only is a lopsided majority of Americans (like McGovern) against the war in Iraq, they also believe (like McGovern) that the Bush administration "intentionally misled" the country into war. The fringe, radical, discredited views on the war are not those expressed by McGovern, but are those expressed by Instadpundit, LGF and company. And yet those same extremists continue to classify people who oppose the war as "radicals"and "leftists" because they apparently still believe — even in the face of all that evidence to the contrary — that it is their pro-war views which represent what mainstream Americans believe.
posted by Glenn Greenwald 1:32 PM
Jon Stewart,..
McGovern VS Rummy and his lie.
video Rummy lie : link