Another OPEN THREAD for the BRAD SHOW of August 27

LIVE and RAW from CRAWFORD, Texas

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  1. 4)
    linda6or7 said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:00am PT: [Permalink]

    I want to know how many were at each camp. I know the pro war camp has already broken up, so we know they have no real commitment, no staying power, but I would like to know how many at each camp total.

  2. 6)
    Peggy said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:08am PT: [Permalink]

    How appropriate — Bush supporters meet at PIRATE FIELD! According to the Iconoclast site, the rally is over and Bush supporters are leaving already!?! Just another Republican media photo-op, I guess.

  3. 7)
    Kraig said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:09am PT: [Permalink]

    It has been almost four years now since 9/11 and it is long overdue that we do precisely what 9/11’s planners so desperately do NOT want us to do. By that I mean it is time for everyone in this country to take a look at 9/11 with dispassionate, analytical, objective, realistic eyes instead of taking the "official" 9/11 story at face value.

  4. 8)
    Marty said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:09am PT: [Permalink]

    Any word on the comment from the pro-military whore Deborah Johns claiming that Cindy won’t meet with her?

    Of course, her son is alive…

  5. 10)
    Kraig said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:11am PT: [Permalink]

    It has been almost four years now since 9/11 and it is long overdue that we do precisely what 9/11’s planners so desperately do NOT want us to do. By that I mean it is time for everyone in this country to take a look at 9/11 with dispassionate, analytical, objective, realistic eyes instead of taking the "official" 9/11 story at face value.

  6. 11)
    texaslady said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:14am PT: [Permalink]

    # 4 You have to remember these people do not like discomfort no a/c Oh my gosh, 110 degree heat Oh No ! My son or daughter go to Iraq, well not just now. They have "other" priorities.

  7. 12)
    nonbeliever said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:15am PT: [Permalink]

    I already heard this on Air America but a great idea to stave off the recruitment shortfall is to go to the pro-war protesters and get them to sign up. Where’s the nearest recruitment office to Crawford? We should give them a call.

  8. 14)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:26am PT: [Permalink]

    #3 Peg C
    Hiyuh! Did you ever get WinAmp downloading using that site Torqued sent you to? Wicked bad (!?) that you can’t tune in. Let me know. VG

  9. 17)
    Peggy said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:32am PT: [Permalink]

    Hi, Brad — you are coming in loud and clear now — great interviews as always — looking forward to listening to tapes of your earlier interviews today, which kept being interrupted. Many thanks to you and everyone there.

  10. 22)
    Kira said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:36am PT: [Permalink]

    I’m sitting down to dinner right now … taking my break at the blog! Howdy y’all! I’ve had my wireless headphones on all day so I can get my chores done.

    I was appalled when the last person interviewed said that their right to free speech in Crawford was extended ONLY at the stadium where those who disagree with the almighty bush could talk with EACH OTHER! Did I hear that right?

  11. 23)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:37am PT: [Permalink]

    Hi Winter (et al.)

    Great to see so many new names in the comments on the prev. thread. I’m listening via WhiteRose Option 1 on a dial-up using WinAmp. WR music just stopped and now I’m hearing Brad into music. Just wanted to let you know details, for anyone who’s having trouble listening.

    VG

    who ya’ rooting for BB-wise?

    oh, BTW, seems to be taking longer than usual for comments to post- so, be patient, all!

  12. 24)
    BradListener said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:37am PT: [Permalink]

    Cool song, I’m finally getting a great connection! Thanks again for everyone bringing us the Brad Show!

  13. 27)
    BradListener said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:39am PT: [Permalink]

    There is a trick to posting comments. After hitting the Submit button, then Refresh the screen. The comment posts very quickly!

  14. 32)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:43am PT: [Permalink]

    Hi Winter (et al.)

    Great to see so many new names in the comments on the prev. thread. I’m listening via WhiteRose Option 1 on a dial-up using WinAmp. WR music just stopped and now I’m hearing Brad into music. Just wanted to let you know details, for anyone who’s having trouble listening.

    VG

    who ya’ rooting for BB-wise?

    oh, BTW, seems to be taking longer than usual for comments to post- so, be patient, all!

  15. 33)
    Kira said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:43am PT: [Permalink]

    Actually, add to that:

    1st – hit submit

    2nd – wait about 3 seconds then hit the "stop" icon (stop loading this page … )

    3rd – hit refresh

  16. 35)
    Marty said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:44am PT: [Permalink]

    When did Cindy compare GW to Hitler? I’ve compared to GW to Hitler. I’ve heard others compare GW to Hitler, but they don’t have the nation-wide platform.

    Sadly, the proBush, proWar folks are being orchestrated out of a PR located near me in Xcre, I mean Suckra, I mean Sacramento….

  17. 37)
    nonbeliever said on 8/27/2005 @ 11:54am PT: [Permalink]

    Poor Rush. I kinda feel bad for the fat ass drug addict. His brain’s addled with oxycontin and he’s deaf in one ear. Nah, screw it he’s a tool. If he had any kind of honor, he’d turn himself into jail instead of fighting his case.

  18. 38)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 12:01pm PT: [Permalink]

    #27 #30

    Thanks for the tip about quicker viewing. I haven’t had this problem before with comments taking so long to go though, the way I usually do it (just hit submit and wait). I see that my first try #23 actually did post, but it didn’t look like I was getting a Bradblog connection. I ended up double posting (first time ever!). I noticed that there a lot of double even triple posts on the previous thread– probably same problem I had.

  19. 42)
    Peg C said on 8/27/2005 @ 12:15pm PT: [Permalink]

    VG #14 –

    Yup. It works a lot better. Still have some buffering problems, but it reconnects by itself usually. What a crowd Brad has there! Great people!!

  20. 43)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 12:15pm PT: [Permalink]

    Speed round– Great idea Otie! Keep up the color commentary, when Brad lets you! VG

  21. 44)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 12:20pm PT: [Permalink]

    Peg C #42

    Glad to hear it. If you want to try something else, I’ll tell you how to change your modem properties-

  22. 46)
    Catherine a said on 8/27/2005 @ 12:22pm PT: [Permalink]

    There’s a thought-provoking summary of a new report by the Institute for Southern Studies posted by Jan Frel at the link here about how the South is providing a disproportionate share of our soldiers (alive and dead).

    Other interesting facts: 66% of enlistees DO NOT receive any funding for college; enlistees are now required to sign up for 8 YEARS; the military spends $11,000 to recruit 1 person. (Total recruitment budget: $3 Billion)

  23. 52)
    Bare Naked Biker said on 8/27/2005 @ 12:38pm PT: [Permalink]

    There is a group of bicyclists on their way to DC from Everrett, WA for S24. Bike4Peace Hey, Brad, could you give them a mention??

  24. 55)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 12:46pm PT: [Permalink]

    Kira, Peg C-

    Yes. Heart breaking. I posted it in response to comments from people during the speed round that recruiters were getting info about kids via the "No Child left Behind" Bush plan.

    VG

  25. 59)
    Sarah said on 8/27/2005 @ 12:50pm PT: [Permalink]

    Valley girl # 48- the picture and caption brought tears to my eyes, how terribly sad, and true! We also must think of the Iraqi children that have also lost parents, Iraqi parents that have lost children to this insanity! Only the oil companies and big American contracting companies are winning in this despicable "resource war". "How did our oil get under their sand"? "Bless the CHILDREN"!! What kind of world are we leaving for them?!

  26. 61)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 12:52pm PT: [Permalink]

    Yeah Brad, we noticed you were talking to Randi Rhodes [or she was talking to you ;-)]– great comments from her. Thanks. VG

  27. 65)
    SanJoseLady said on 8/27/2005 @ 1:05pm PT: [Permalink]

    I can’t thank you enough Brad, for keeping us informed today (finally got a shower in as well).

    We are all there in heart and spirit with you, and so glad to hear overall that for the most part things were peaceful in Crawford.

    Hearing this today takes me back to my childhood in San Francisco, watching the protests and then seeing the war on TV everynight, always with the helicopters.

    Though 30 + years have gone by, here we are again, right back in almost the same situation, and I do feel like I am trapped in an evil time warp…….

    Bring our troops home NOW!

  28. 68)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 1:09pm PT: [Permalink]

    I heard the man asking what he could say in response to the accusation from the pro-Bush pro-war people that those of us who want our troops out of Iraq aren’t supporting the troops.

    I wanted to yell to you/ him go to Operation Truth optruth.org here for starters, to find out how Bush IS NOT supporting our troops– body armor lacking, etc. and IS NOT supporting out troops once they become "vets" by giving them all of the support– medical treatment and psychological counseling, etc. that they need.

    BTW, I think it would be great if the Brad Blog could include column of links to the organizations, web addresses, that Iraq veterans and others have mentioned during the Brad Show.

  29. 72)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 1:19pm PT: [Permalink]

    #65 San Jose Lady-

    Yes, the helicopters- always there in the news from Nam and in the lives of the soldiers.

    It made a deep impression me- the helicopters/ the choppers are the birds of war– that’s always my gut response.

    VG

  30. 75)
    colleenmilitarymom said on 8/27/2005 @ 1:33pm PT: [Permalink]

    Historic. You said it Laura. Brad has been on the air for over 30 hours. Broadcasting from a tabletop with a hamster

  31. 82)
    Valley Girl said on 8/27/2005 @ 1:50pm PT: [Permalink]

    Hi Ben,

    Welcome back! White Rose stream has been great. Been using link 1 always. A free computer problems earlier today broadcasting the Brad Show, but that was local at the Brad place, from what I understood.

    Thanks again for the support from White Rose.

    VG

  32. 83)
    Radine! said on 8/27/2005 @ 1:56pm PT: [Permalink]

    Hey BenB! A belated "Happy Birthday!" the problems with the stream today certainly weren’t your fault!!!

    Thanks for the hook up as always sir!

  33. 84)
    Slicer said on 8/27/2005 @ 1:57pm PT: [Permalink]

    Hey don’t let Laura forget who got her on the air tonight. Also how about a donation plea sometime during the hour.

  34. 87)
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  35. 88)
    mba said on 8/27/2005 @ 2:18pm PT: [Permalink]

    Check this out…

    For you true patriots.. Ammo to shut the Right up!

    Love your country? Demand Impeachment!
    by Ken Sanders

    It was Theodore Roosevelt, twenty-sixth President of the United States and a Republican, who famously said in 1918, "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

    http://dissidentvoice.org/Aug05/Sanders0824.htm

  36. 90)
    Peggy said on 8/27/2005 @ 2:31pm PT: [Permalink]

    All the Chickhawks and their children are — AWOL — AWOL — FOREVER AND PERMANENTLY AWOL!!!!

  37. 91)
    linda6or7 said on 8/27/2005 @ 2:40pm PT: [Permalink]

    Hell no we don’t want any of dubyas cheese. Hell, I think we’ve pretty much already been cheesed by Bushco don’t you?

  38. 92)
    texaslady said on 8/27/2005 @ 2:40pm PT: [Permalink]

    #88 That is a fantastic quote !!! Been trying to say that but these words are the best. Thanks

    Good grief this country was built on dissent and dissent is the only thing that will right a wrong.
    When did we stop questioning ? When did we all become afraid to speak out?

    A few months ago, while waiting, a young man fresh back from Iraq and I began a conversation.
    After awhile he started to tell me what it was like over there. But we found ourselves whispering !!

    In America, in a public place, two strangers exchanging information BUT WHISPERING !
    It was NOT THIS BAD during Vietnam…I remember.

  39. 94)
    colleenmilitarymom said on 8/27/2005 @ 2:46pm PT: [Permalink]

    I love Laura. This is a happening that is wonderful.
    Go Brad. I’m listening, not at my computer.
    BLOG ON>

  40. 95)
    Kira said on 8/27/2005 @ 2:56pm PT: [Permalink]

    WOW! This is great! I’m listening to Laura Flanders for the first time ever. What a great job, Laura! My 2 all time favorite radio hosts ever – Brad and Laura! Except of course, for Randi, Al & Mike Malloy (also from Air America.) Thank you so much for all you’re doing to get the truth out here to us. HOW REFRESHING!!!

    Many thanks to the young soldier who is talking right now. My prayers are with you.

  41. 98)
    mba said on 8/27/2005 @ 3:07pm PT: [Permalink]

    how do we take the message that the Faith Based Initiatives got $500,000.00 to Pat Robertson??

    Non-profits which engage in political agenda violate Federal Law.

  42. 100)
    Kira said on 8/27/2005 @ 3:17pm PT: [Permalink]

    Brad you ROCK!!!! THANK YOU for blazing the trail & paving the way for LIVE RADIO from Crawford, TX!!! You are soooo making history!

    What A GUY!

    Stay cool & remember to drink lots of water.

    Hugz & kisses to Brad & Crew, Laura Flanders, Iconoclast editor & reporters, the Peace House Founders, those who are providing food and other necessities — and last (but not least) Cindy Sheehan and all her supporters!

    THANK YOU ALL! It’s because of you that I can sleep at night.

  43. 101)
    BP said on 8/27/2005 @ 3:23pm PT: [Permalink]

    hiya…

    i have a question about CNN TV News. They are saying that "thousands" of "Pro-Bush" supporters showed up Saturday to protest against the "Hundreds" of Cindy protesters.

    From listening to the stream from here, I get the idea that there are thousands of Anti-Bush protesters. Is this correct? & is CNN downplaying the whole thing?

    thanx -BP

  44. 107)
    merifour said on 8/27/2005 @ 3:50pm PT: [Permalink]

    Just came back to this site and am catching up on the day. I shudder to think of what the Bushco team is planning for us, while we are occpied with this story…..Cheney and friends are very busy I am sure planning the next 911 to bring us into line.

  45. 109)
    Peggy said on 8/27/2005 @ 4:00pm PT: [Permalink]

    Thank you, Brad. Wonderful show — Thank you, Laura from Air America — Thank you, Cindy and everyone at CampS Casey. God Bless.

  46. 112)
    BP said on 8/27/2005 @ 4:02pm PT: [Permalink]

    "i have a question about CNN TV News. They are saying that "thousands" of "Pro-Bush" supporters showed up Saturday to protest against the "Hundreds" of Cindy protesters.

    From listening to the stream from here, I get the idea that there are thousands of Anti-Bush protesters. Is this correct? & is CNN downplaying the whole thing?"

    Come on
    :rolleyes: I want to know how many people were there today!

  47. 114)
    Winter Patriot said on 8/27/2005 @ 4:03pm PT: [Permalink]

    Thanks to Cindy, Brad, Desi, Otie, Kat, Laura … who am I forgetting? Lots of other people … no offense intended of course but I cannot possibly name them all … thanks to all the excellent guests who have been on the show today … thanks to all the bloggers who have contributed to the open threads today … and thanks especially to those who have made financial contributions to this very worthy cause! We couldn’t do any of it without all of you … so THANKS again, and we’ll see you tomorrow!

  48. 116)
    Peg C said on 8/27/2005 @ 4:07pm PT: [Permalink]

    Another, bigger and better 9/11 – but we won’t buy it this time. They’ll have to institute martial law and then they’ll have civil war on their hands.

  49. 118)
    Winter Patriot said on 8/27/2005 @ 4:13pm PT: [Permalink]

    If you are concerned about "another 9/11" then it makes some sense to try to prevent it … and one way you can do it is to print pages like THIS IS YOUR WATCH! and distribute copies everywhere … Fax them to your ‘elected’ representatives, and to your local and national ‘news’ outlets, put them on telephone poles, leave them in bus stops and coffee shops … anywhere that people sit and wait … the more we know, and the more we make it clear that we do know, the less chance they have to pull off another dirty trick like 9/11 …

    There’s more where that page came from. Here’s another good one: Are You Ready For Some Synthetic Terror? by Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones

  50. 119)
    Kira said on 8/27/2005 @ 4:27pm PT: [Permalink]

    For the gentleman Laura interviewed who put shoe polish on his horse (just because he seemed to care so much!)

    Shoe Polish (Common hazardous ingredients) —
    Methylene chloride – methylene chloride can damage the brain, as well as the skin, lungs, and other organs. In addition, methylene chloride has been shown to cause cancer in humans and laboratory animals.

    mineral spirits (& petroleum distillates), Nierenberg DW, Horowitz MB, Harris KM, et al. 1991. Mineral spirits inhalation associated with hemolysis, pulmonary edema, and ventricular fibrillation.

    nitrobenzene, (Most of the nitrobenzene produced in the United States is used to manufacture a chemical called aniline. Nitrobenzene is also used to produce lubricating oils such as those used in motors and machinery. A small amount of nitrobenzene is used in the manufacture of dyes, drugs, pesticides, and synthetic rubber.) — In animals, breathing nitrobenzene resulted in an increase in liver, thyroid, and kidney tumors. Animal studies have reported effects on the blood and liver from exposure to nitrobenzene.

    silicones, — several of these compounds are known to be harmful if in contact with skin and if swallowed, they cause burns and are toxic to the aquatic environment and ecotoxic in general. Thus the Commission Proposal classifies in general waste containing silicones as hazardous waste.

    trichloroethylene – These products have been shown to be toxic to animals and are probably toxic to humans. Trichloroethylene has been nominated for listing in the National Toxicology Program (NTP) 9th Report on Carcinogens.

  51. 121)
    Brad said on 8/27/2005 @ 4:39pm PT: [Permalink]

    Thank you, guys! Just got my net back now from those be-otches at Air America! 😉

    After 9 hours of broadcasting today…I think I need some rest. Hope to get some soon.

    Thanks to all of you for hanging in there with us today, particularly to WP, David Edwards, Kira, Ben Burch and all the other 6 or 7 of you (love u Peg C, VG, and all the rest!)

    Back at HIGH NOON tomorrow…unlike those AAR slackers. We’ll see if Randi Rhodes is around to sit down for a bit longer. She can talk all she wants, I’m happy to shut up 🙂

    Rock! And Peace!

  52. 123)
    Ray Duray said on 8/27/2005 @ 5:22pm PT: [Permalink]

    Cindy Sheehan speaks out on the absurdity of Bush’s call for more war:

    http://www.buzzflash.com/contri.../con05306.html

    I have continually asked George Bush to quit using Casey’s name and the name of the other Gold Star Families for Peace loved ones to justify his continued killing. He continues to say this: "We have to honor the sacrifices of the fallen by completing the mission." So the mission is now this: WE MUST CONTINUE KILLING AMERICANS BECAUSE AMERICANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN KILLED!!!

  53. 131)
    gimama said on 8/29/2005 @ 4:26am PT: [Permalink]

    Galloway & Fonda anti-war tour! …culminating in DC for the huge PEACE rally! WooHooo!

    Home from Camp Casey, I miss You Guys!
    Lovin’ that LIVE feed & archives,tho,especially the excellent live music! Sounds GOOD out here..
    THANK YOU.

    Poster I thought was perfect response to those SUV drivin’ regressives:

    "HONK! if YOUR kid is in Iraq!"

    Bless us ALL without exception! ~===]
    ~g

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