— By Brad Friedman
[Updated — now several times — with a number of significant items, additional info, background, reaction and analysis from around the blogosphere, all at the end of the article.]
Sibel Edmonds, the former FBI translator who has been under a Bush administration gag order for the past 5 years, has now begun to disclose some of the classified information she has been prohibited from revealing.
“A WHISTLEBLOWER has made a series of extraordinary claims about how corrupt government officials allowed Pakistan and other states to steal nuclear weapons secrets,” reports Great Britain’s Sunday Times in the lede of their front page exclusive, headlined “For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets.”
In the article, just filed tonight, Edmonds reveals details overheard on wiretaps she translated during her time at the FBI, just after 9/11. Her disclosures to the Times reveal a maze of nuclear black market espionage involving U.S. Defense and State Department officials, that resulted in the sale and propagation of nuclear secrets to Turkish and Israeli interests. In turn, that information was then sold to Pakistan and used by A.Q. Kahn for development of nuclear weapons. The secrets were subsequently proliferated to Iran, Libya, North Korea, and potentially al-Qaeda’s Osama bin Laden, just weeks prior to September 11th, 2001.
The explosive allegations, shared with the Sunday Times over the last several weeks, follow on the heels of two reports published late last year by The BRAD BLOG, based on our own exclusive interviews with Edmonds.
While not everything Edmonds has to reveal is reported by the Times tonight, the foreign paper’s front-page feature underscores, yet again, the failure of the U.S. mainstream media to adequately report on issues of extraordinary importance to American national security.
In late October, Edmonds had told The BRAD BLOG she was prepared to reveal the information to any major U.S. broadcast media outlet, after feeling that she had exhausted all efforts to see the disturbing information properly investigated by U.S. Government agencies. She had, in fact, spent years in classified interviews with high-ranking officials from the FBI, DoJ, 9/11 Commission and both houses of the U.S. Congress, in hopes of seeing accountability brought concerning the issues of national security, which the DoJ’s own Inspector General had described as “credible,” “serious,” and “warrant[ing] a thorough and careful review by the FBI.”
Despite broken promises for hearings on her case by U.S. Congressman Henry Waxman (D-CA), support from Senators Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Patrick Leahy (D-VT), and a number of mainstream exposés several years ago detailing aspects of her story before she was willing to break her unprecedented “States Secrets Privilege” gag order, none of the American broadcast media outlets took her up on her offer.
“She has now decided to divulge some of that information after becoming disillusioned with the US authorities’ failure to act,” reports the Sunday Times tonight…
In our mid-November follow-up article, the legendary 1970’s whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg had excoriated the U.S. media for their failure to cover the story, even as Edmonds was risking jail in order to expose crimes and massive corruption, allegedly, in the highest levels of the government. At the time, Ellsberg told us that he believed the information she had been forced by the Administration to withhold “is far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers.”
Ellsberg is known for having released thousands of pages of top-secret Defense Department documents, concerning America’s involvement in Vietnam, to the New York Times in 1971, in what became a landmark whistleblower case.
“I can tell the American public exactly what it is, and what it is that they are covering up,” Edmonds had promised in our October article. But it was, in fact, a UK media outlet that finally took up the Turkish-born, American citizen’s offer for the whistleblower interview. The result is the release of explosive details on at least one aspect of the U.S. national security-related secrets that she is now willing to disclose.
“What I found was damning,” Edmonds tells the Times about the information she learned while at the FBI concerning the nuclear blackmarket activities and proliferation of several government agencies, including her own unit at the FBI. “While the FBI was investigating, several arms of the government were shielding what was going on.”
Among the newly disclosed information from Edmonds, in the extraordinary front-page Times article tonight:
â— Foreign intelligence agents from Turkey, Israel and Pakistan enlisted the support of high-level US officials in order to acquire a network of moles deep inside of sensitive American military and nuclear agencies, including “PhD students – with security clearance [at] Los Alamos nuclear laboratory in New Mexico, which is responsible for the security of the US nuclear deterrent.”
â— Members of the diplomatic community were given lists of potential “moles” at the sensitive installations. Edmonds tells the Times: “the lists contained all their ‘hooking points’, which could be financial or sexual pressure points, their exact job in the Pentagon and what stuff they had access to.”
â— Well-known US officials were then bribed by foreign agents to steal US nuclear secrets. One such incident from 2000 involves an agent overheard on a wiretap discussing “nuclear information that had been stolen from an air force base in Alabama,” in which the agent allegedly is heard saying: “We have a package and we’re going to sell it for $250,000.”
â— Nuclear secrets were then subsequently sold by foreign agents to America’s enemies, including Iran, North Korea and Libya.
â— Pakistani officials involved in the nuclear black market network have significant cross-over with al-Qaeda and 9/11. Officials such as the chief of ISI, Pakistan’s spy agency, allegedly sent $100,000 to 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta, and aides of A.Q. Kahn — who had used the stolen secrets to develop nuclear weapons for Pakistan — met with Osama bin Laden “weeks before 9/11…to discuss an Al-Qaeda nuclear device.”
â— Elements of the US government have repeatedly shut down investigations into these crimes under the guise of protecting “certain diplomatic relations.”
â— The US government has been aware of all of the above information since at least 2001.
Read the Times’ full article for many more disturbing details and connected dots.
But we can add to at least one item of note in their report, concerning an unnamed “well-known senior official in the US State Department,” allegedly heard to have received bribes as part of the network. According to the paper:
The name of the official – who has held a series of top government posts – is known to The Sunday Times. He strongly denies the claims.
However, Edmonds said: “He was aiding foreign operatives against US interests by passing them highly classified information, not only from the State Department but also from the Pentagon, in exchange for money, position and political objectives.â€
She claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials – including household names – who were aiding foreign agents.
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“In one conversation Edmonds heard the official arranging to pick up a $15,000 cash bribe.”
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Edmonds said: “I heard at least three transactions like this over a period of 2½ years. There are almost certainly more.â€
While that “well-known senior” State Department official is not named by the paper, Australia’s Luke Ryland, who writes at a number of sites as “Lukery”, is perhaps the world’s foremost expert concerning the Sibel Edmonds story. Ryland has told The BRAD BLOG that the official, unnamed by the Times, is Marc Grossman.
Grossman was the U.S. Ambassador to Turkey (’94-’97), the Asst. Sec. of State for European Affairs (’97-’00) and served under Colin Powell and Richard Armitage at the State Department from 2001 to 2005 as the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. He’s currently employed as the Vice Chairman of the D.C. and China-based consulting firm, The Cohen Group, founded by the former Republican Defense Secretary for Bill Clinton, William S. Cohen.
“The Cohen Group provides global business consulting services and advice on tactical and strategic opportunities in virtually every market,” advertises the firm on the front page of their website.
Additional information on a related angle of Grossman’s alleged involvement in these matters was reported by the prolific Ryland in 2006, on his blog, WotIsItGood4.
“The senior official in the State Department [who] no longer works there” offered the Times this non-denial denial of Edmonds’ allegations: “If you are calling me to say somebody said that I took money that’s outrageous,” he reportedly said. “I do not have anything to say about such stupid ridiculous things as this.”
Apparently, he also doesn’t have anything to say, along the lines of “I never took any such money, or did any such thing,” either.
“In researching this article, The Sunday Times has talked to two FBI officers (one serving, one former) and two former CIA sources who worked on nuclear proliferation,” the paper writes. “While none was aware of specific allegations against officials she names, they did provide overlapping corroboration of Edmonds’s story.”
In a 15-page 2005 exposé in Vanity Fair, concerning yet another, if perhaps-related, aspect of Edmonds’ allegations, British reporter David Rose detailed charges of nearly $500,000 in bribes from Turkish interests, said to have been prepared for former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL). His attorney has denied those allegations, though, in another BRAD BLOG exclusive, Edmonds challenged specific details of the denial. Hastert recently resigned from Congress, sparking speculation for his sudden departure after reports by ABC News in 2006, that he was under DoJ investigation for bribery charges related to convicted Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
In our October story, Edmonds had told us that, in addition to Hastert, she was prepared to name and give details of corruption involving at least “two other well-known” members of Congress. She told us at the time that they are both Republicans from the U.S. House and “one of them is recently no longer there.”
For more details on the Edmonds case, in an easy to read primer, see “What The Heck is the Sibel Edmonds Case Anyway? And Why Should You Care About It?”, a recent BRAD BLOG item based, in part, on the reporting of Ryland.
Whether the Sunday Times story tonight will give permission to the U.S. corporate media to finally pick up the story, and cover the many still-unreported aspects of Edmonds’ charges, remains to be seen.
If any of them wish to contact us, we’ll be happy, as we’ve offered many times, to help put them in contact with her.
As our friend Joseph Cannon mentions tonight, in relation to our coverage of the at least 4-years-overdue New York Times Magazine’s Sunday cover story on the disaster of e-voting: “Journalism delayed is journalism denied.”
UPDATE 12:06pm PT: Several notable reactions, furtherances of today’s Sunday Times front page stunner…
â— As usual, Luke Ryland offers tons of info, analysis, links and background in his dKos coverage (cross-posted at Let Sibel Edmonds Speak). Just a couple of the notable passages offering additional context on the story, from his coverage today:
The Times article then notes something that I reported 18 months ago. Immediately after 911, the FBI arrested a bunch of people suspected of being involved with the attacks – including four associates of key targets of FBI’s counterintelligence operations. Sibel heard the targets tell Marc Grossman: “We need to get them out of the US because we can’t afford for them to spill the beans.” Grossman duly facilitated their release from jail and the suspects immediately left the country without further investigation or interrogation.Let me repeat that for emphasis: The #3 guy at the State Dept facilitated the immediate release of 911 suspects at the request of targets of the FBI’s investigation.
…and this…
high-level Pentagon officials were maintaining ‘dossiers’ on the sexual and financial proclivities of their underlings in order to be able to blackmail them.I know that many of you have been (rightly) concerned about FISA, and many of you have (rightly) been confused by the inexplicable behaviour of Democrats in Congress, and wonder why they behave as though they are being blackmailed.
Now you know.
â— Rightwing blogger and “9/11 conspiracy theory debunker”, Pat Curley, a previous — and we would add, irresponsible — critic of Edmonds’ at ScrewLooseChange, offers what can only be seen as an ersatz apology for his previous coverage, in his item on today’s news. Still, we note he has yet to retract, or issue a specific apology to Edmonds, for comments made in his previous irresponsible coverage. Given the focus of the Screw Loose Change site, we’d think journalistic integrity would be paramount, and that he’d add a retraction/apology to his previous coverage, if he’s actually had the change of heart today’s post would seem to indicate.
â— Blogger Joseph Cannon describes the piece as a “BOMBSHELL!” and offers additional details on Pakistan’s ISI chief Mahmoud Ahmad — who is central to the Times story, and Edmonds allegations — including his relationship to both al-Qaeda, and a very cozy relationship with the neo-Cons in D.C. Writes Cannon:
Get the picture? Valerie Plame was trying to stop Khan in his tracks. But Armitage stopped Valerie Plame in her tracks. Armitage and his neocon comrades are good buddies with Mehmood Ahmad, who was engineering this trade in nukes.â— And, speaking of the Plame angle, her former CIA classmate, former CIA analyst Larry Johnson of NoQuarter notes this, about Edmonds claims of payoffs to Grossman, Hastert and others, in his coverage this morning:
The role that foreign money and intelligence officers have played in U.S. politics is not a Sibel Edmonds fantasy. The woman is simply trying to tell folks what she heard. This matter needs to be investigated. I do not believe that Sibel is making up what she heard.
UPDATE 1:14pm PT: Further reaction from the ‘sphere…
â— Our friend, RAW STORY investigative journalist, Larisa Alexandrovna, a longtime expert on this particular foreign affairs/nuclear black market beat, adds some thoughts and details on her at-Largely blog (and also cross-posted to Huffington Post.)
She too confirms the unnamed State Dept. official from the story to be Marc Grossman, and writes: “The Times could have published the name and also provided the denial from Grossman’s camp. I find it incredibly disturbing that they would not name the official.”
Noting that her source for this information is not Edmonds, she also adds the following about some of the other unnamed officials referred to in the story:
Those senior DOD officials that are not mentioned the Times, all but one are no longer in government. They are alleged to be Doug Feith, Richard Perle, among others. There is also one person who is part of these allegations, still serving in a high level position at the DOD. His last name begins with an E.…as she goes on to include this additional excoriation of the Times’ unwillingness to name names, and of the dangers of outsourcing national security to the global marketplace:
That the Times ran these allegations (she is under a state secrets gag folks, so it is not like she is gagged for lying) is encouraging. But that they omitted all names from the allegations is unethical. The point of a free press is not to protect the powerful against the weak, but to protect the public from the powerful. The Times was willing to stick a toe in, but was not willing to risk upsetting a foreign government (This is, after all, a British paper).There are more names, including members of Congress and people serving in the FBI. This is what happens when basic government services as well as the most sensitive government functions are outsourced to the global marketplace.
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You can see why Edmonds had to be silenced for “diplomatic reasons.” As though diplomatic (read: business) relationships are more important than national security.
UPDATE 11:38pm PT: More reaction and analysis coming in late tonight…
â— Justin Raimondo, editorial director of Antiwar.com and a contributing editor for The American Conservative adds a great deal of linked context and background in his detailed coverage of the Times piece. He says of Edmonds allegations: “if true, it’s the story of the decade.”
He frames his article around last night’s Presidential Debate, in which ABC’s Charles Gibson asked the Democratic candidates a remarkable question, in light of the Edmonds allegations today. “The next president may have to deal with a nuclear attack,” Gibson said. “The day after a nuclear weapon goes off in an American city, what would we wish we had done to prevent it and what will we actually do on the day after?”
None of the candidates rose to the occasion and most seemed baffled, writes Raimondo, who sums of the details of this whole sordid tale this way…
Corruption and a massive cover-up organized at the highest levels of government – America’s nuclear secrets and technology looted on a massive scale, and sold to our enemies via a network set up by our alleged foreign “friends,” while the threat of nuclear terrorism hangs over our country like a thick fog of fear, and warmongering politicians scare us into going along with the program – if even half of what Edmonds alleges turns out to be true, then we are all in some very big trouble.…before closing with this eerie reminder…
As Edmonds says, “we have the facts, we have the documents, we have the witnesses. Put out the tapes, put out the documents, put out the intercepts – put out the truth.”If a nuke ever goes off in an American city, it will probably have been stolen from our own arsenal – once the American people wake up to that scary fact, the rest will follow automatically.
Ramaindo also reminds us of the following terrific video, put together by Luke Ryland last Summer, featuring Edmonds, in her own words, along with a few FBI colleagues, and Sen. Grassley singing her praises of “credibility” on 60 Minutes, from 2002. Well worth watching (less than 10 mins)…
UPDATE 1/7/08 8:35am PT: Sibel “names” names. She puts 21 photographs on her website without names. We put names to the faces. Details (and names) posted here on The BRAD BLOG…
UPDATE 1/7/08, 1:43pm PT: Over at Op/Ed News, Mike Mejia offers this additional information, concerning Grossman’s ties to the Valerie Plame Wilson/Scooter Libby CIA leak case, in his coverage of the Times story…
Grossman is also being subpoenaed by the defense in the AIPAC espionage trial, along with several other officials who may have passed classified information to the powerful Israel-connected lobby group.
In addition, the Times article mentions Pentagon officials selling nuclear secrets to Turkey and Pakistan. AIPAC case figure Larry Franklin is discussed by Edmonds in the article. The whistleblower has suggested in separate interviews that Franklin’s supervisor at the Pentagon, Douglas Feith has been involved in the scandal, as well as prominent neoconservative and Feith associate Richard Perle.
UPDATE 1/7/08, 5:07pm PT: Former New York Times contributor, Dave Lindorff at Baltimore Chronicle, covers in detail, asks how Edmonds’ story might tie in to the recent, and still unexplained, cross-country flyover of a B-52 with nuclear-tipped weapons on board, and closes by asking appropriately enough: “Meanwhile, there is enough in just this one London Times story to keep an army of investigative reporters busy for years. So why, one has to ask, is this story appearing in a highly respected British newspaper, but not anywhere in the corporate US media?”
Why, indeed, Dave.
UPDATE 1/8/08, 1:12pm PT: It’s now more than two days since London’s Sunday Times first ran their report. The story has now been picked up by mainstream media outlets in India, Pakistan, Israel and even Turkey. In the U.S. mainstream media? Not a single sentence. Details now here…
Yes !!!
The preznit blush claims to spy on us to save us from “turrists” while his regime outs CIA agents who are really working to protect us, and as his regime sells nuclear secrets to “turrists”?
What will happen if this and this get out? The NIST report concerning 9-11 is under appeal/review by well known architects and engineers as to its accuracy and factual well being. NIST admits in writing that it cannot explain the government’s conspiracy theory as far as building 7 and towers one and two (ibid).
Will Amurka ever turn back into America if Sibel’s story is too emotionally difficult to believe for many people?
Even when it is already on the record that government officials and government agents have spied for foreign nations?
And remember Feeney helping the Chinese spy who plead guilty in Florida? The one Clint Curtis disclosed?
That bushies do the same is not at all difficult for me to believe, since they even wanted to sell our ports to mid-east nations who openly supported the Taliban. Yep, the same nation that Halliburton moved its headquarters to.
Treason against America is alive and well in BIG BROTHER’S Amurka.
9-11 CD is a distraction from the real story above IMO.
It doesn’t help Sibel get her story out, does it ?
…OMG. Would this also explain why they offed the electable Pakistani candidate? After all, they gun used was exclusively ISI. That’s just guessing though…
Sibel and others took an oath to defend this country, not an oath to protect the president or secret back room meetings and lies. We need more like her that know these dealings and do their sworn duties and put these criminals out of business.
Tonight Sibel, I raise my glass to you for a toast and/or for to get toasty/toasted.
Let me pass this along:
My problem with this article is, that it is published in The Sunday Times, which is one of the worst war advocate and profiteer Murdoch’s propaganda papers. ‘The Sunday Times’ and propaganda-media owner Rupert Murdoch, have for as long as is known cooperated with the CIA/Mossad, the UK’s MI5 and MI6 and the rest of the spooks.
Murdoch’s papers write about the 9/11 massacre, but still – contrary to the truth – stick to the official US/UK version and brainwashing: Osama’s bin Laden’s ragheads did it.
Nothing in those pro-war papers gets published – and certainly not this kind of ‘information’ in those outlets – that isn’t aimed at certain groups. If you check the source, you’ll see that Murdoch is a disinformation pest for mankind.
So, I’m inclined to say that @S. Balu is quite correct, in seeing the item as ‘CIA/Mossad propaganda’.
In reality it was as Tony S. writes: “The CIA pressed Dutch govt. not to interfear, (this must be a Freudian slip… -HR) claiming they were after more suspects surrounding Khan.
That’s how he got away with the stolen nuclear secrets. This was publicly stated by Ruud Lubbers, former Dutch Prime Minister a couple of years ago.”
And Lubbers – who also was the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) – stated clearly that the CIA and its managers are guilty of nuclear proliferation. – Url.: http://tinyurl.com/38pj2a
Now: we know that Sibel Edmunds has a unique ‘gag order’ as ‘The Sunday Times’ in this article describes. And that this ‘gag order’ is global and until further notice by the US/UK junta’s henchmen: “The US attorney-general has imposed a state secrets privilege order on her, which prevents her revealing more details of the FBI’s methods and current investigations.”
So it’s logical to ask why Sibel Edmunds now is published worldwide, and – the gag order doesn’t count here – is allowed to be quoted by Murdoch’s paper and read by everybody?
Why, who and on what level was ‘permission’ given for this in the US and decided to publish this about the nuke proliferation?
Concerning Sibel Edmunds, the use which is made of her and to what she now is said to have heard and seen: ”Her story shows just how much the West was infiltrated by foreign states seeking nuclear secrets. It illustrates how western government officials turned a blind eye to, or were even helping, countries such as Pakistan acquire bomb technology.
The wider nuclear network has been monitored for many years by a joint Anglo-American intelligence effort. But rather than shut it down, investigations by law enforcement bodies such as the FBI and Britain’s Revenue & Customs have been aborted to preserve diplomatic relations.” [end excerpt]
According to this not to be trusted article: “Khan was close to Ahmad and the ISI. While running Pakistan’s nuclear programme, he became a millionaire by selling atomic secrets to Libya, Iran and North Korea.”
Meaning: whom can we blame for the next – probably nuclear – ‘false flag’ operation? Those “infiltrated foreign states seeking nuclear secrets”?
We all know that the Pakistani ‘spooky thugs’ from ISI, are the ‘little brothers’ of the CIA/Mossad, trained and many times paid by them, and get most of their orders from them. There are small rogue groups too, and those are not only dangerous but can be used to set up ‘black ops’.
So the one to blame – like the stop of the Dakar rally – http://tinyurl.com/3e3pvn – is again the fictitious ‘al Qaeda’ and the dead Osama bin Laden, just referring to the timeline here:
“2001 – Weeks before 9/11, Khan’s aides meet Osama Bin Laden to discuss an Al-Qaeda nuclear device.”
The drumbeat in the major media now will be: and the rogue states got ‘m!
Original article in Murdoch’s propaganda paper ‘The Sunday Times’ – Url.: http://tinyurl.com/2s2key
This is a world of smoke and mirrors, but, as the old Sahrahoui said:
“Never drink from a well you don’t know.”
While we are all very glad to hear this info finally getting out, I wonder how much of it was gained by the illegal wiretapping going on, even before 9/11.
This may end up being used as justification for illegal surveillance.
There is no doubt that “Sum of all fears” will happen if US keep this crooks in the government. I think US is most corrupt country in the world. US need some serious cleanup from top to bottom.
9/11 would has neva happened if Gore wasn’t ousted in the 1999 coup
I have a couple of questions that perhaps could be passed on to Sibel:
Is her story the key to understanding the real motives for White House action against Valerie Plame and Joseph Wilson?
Does the Plame-Wilson story hold the key to understanding why there was no follow-through on the investigation of Sibel’s story, despite demonstrable evidence and motivation for moving on it by elements within the government?
Think about it for a second: Valerie Plame ran an undercover operation that tracked movement of Nuclear technology and materials around the world, with a main focus of interest, presence, and activity centered in Turkey.
What if interested parties high in the administration caught wind of an active investigation coming close to the core of these activities, so they outed her in order to shut off the investigation?
The act of outing her was high-risk. WAY too high risk to be explained by simple political revenge… But preventing the wholesale incarceration of your power structure could certainly inspire such a risky undertaking.
Something to consider…
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Floridiot #3
Sibel is a 9-11 conspiracy afficionado, but she does not buy the official government conspiracy theory:
(Sibel Interview). Some of the information she has includes real 9-11 facts but of course many folk are afraid to consider that aspect of Amurka. The truth about Amurka replacing America is too scary for some to believe and the presstitutes are and have been on a propaganda campaign to cover it all up. Standard fare for the MSM.
That’s right Dredd, I certainly believe (most) of it too, but we all know what happens when ‘controlled demolition’ or ‘inside job’ gets thrown at people…it discredits everything else that might lead people to believe anything about this part of the story that needs to be told first IMO.
If I said ‘Controlled demolition’ was a piece of dis-info (propaganda) put out by the spooks to keep us from finding out the real truth of 9-11, would you believe it ?, well I do
Brad,
Thanks. You are the news!
Even if Al Gore had prevailed to become President in 2000, perhaps he would have soon met with an untimely death. Remember, Neo-con-friendly Joe Lieberman was his VP. Was that Gore’s choice or some other heavyweight funder of the Democratic Party? This is all highly speculative, but I have wondered if Lieberman was not a Bush-Cheney/Neo-con camp infiltrator of the Democratic Party that would have prevailed whatever happened in the 2000 election.
This article is very interesting. But if you go deeper, Check out the following link. It suggest that the USA had two different agencies, one trying to stop Pakistan from getting arms and the other trying to help it. Makes you think this is part of the USA’s goal to destabilize South Asia by helping Pakistan in a method to slow India’s growth.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/11/19/deception_british_reporter_andrew_levy_on
DeighvedHSternMD – there certainly has been a lot of speculation to that end, although we haven’t been able to confirm the motivations of those who outed Plame.
This post might be of interest to you to help understand what we know.
> If I said ‘Controlled demolition’ was a piece of
> dis-info (propaganda) put out by the spooks to
> keep us from finding out the real truth of 9-11,
> would you believe it ?, well I do
– Floridiot
I would certainly consider it, but I believe the opposite. There’s plenty of evidence right from the mainstream news of all the bombs going off in and under the towers. The only reason to deny it is to make LIHOP plausible, which it’s not.
Silverstein had to get rid of his asbestos nightmare and probably wanted to do some insurance scam for years. Then on 911 Cheney’s actions were HIGHLY suspicious meanwhile some equally suspicious Isrealis danced while documenting the event and the rest is history.
Again, only part of your story.
[emphasis mine]
I think shrinks call this “alternation”… a way of keeping interest focused on oneself. A little information alternating with quiet.
Thank you for your strength and conviction Ms. Edmunds because your patriotism is an inspiration to all world people trying to save our planet.
Truth will lead to the removal and life imprisonment of the treasonous lying bush/cheney administration. OUR current U.S. political system that favors the reign of influence by the 1%er corporatists MUST END. These skull and bonesmen and their propaganda machine are the biggest corrupt terrorists that WE THE PEOPLE have to deal with or face the consequences.
We can stop them from doing any more damage to our world by fostering a truth movement like at B blog. The total damage done to our country and world is still on going because the U.S. Justice system is so corrupted that they STILL REMAIN IN POWER.
Alberto Gonzalez, bush’s previous choice for Attorney General pushed through congress on the same day when the 2004 presidential rigged electors of New Mexico, Nevada, Ohio, and Florida couldn’t “recall” virtually anything under oath that happened under his tenure before stepping down.
Would you really expect this despicable lawyer from bush’s camp given command of the U.S. Justice Department to investigate the bush/cheney crime family? Is anyone really that stupid to believe that criminals are gonna implicate themselves? Not in this life. But you could make these bastards step down like Nixon and that’s a start.
How disgustingly obvious your control in the U.S. mass media by putting putin, gw bush, and hitler back in the day on the cover of TIME magazine. Describing them favorably as modern man of the year as opposed to the corrupt power hungry good for nuthin murderous leaders that they are.
Abolish U.S. politicians from accepting multi-national corporate contributions AND you take away their influencial power.. power that reverts back to WE THE PEOPLE.
And I wonder how many of these folks show up in the PMA, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, Pamela Martin & Associates, phone records?
I know that the first PMA phone record I looked at had a number that linked back to a non-junior person. But with a 10 year old phone number a number of folks can have had it.
Praise God, if he exists, this story is spreading on the Internet today. I’ve linked it to a couple of blogs, and it is on Raw Story as well as here and getting discussion on a C & L. thread on McGovern’s call for impeachment. The crack has appeared in the dam I hope. If true, this story is treason plain and simple like Robert Hanson’s. Just when you believe you can’t read anything more corrupt and criminal about the Bush administration, something else always turns up. Anyway, thanks BradBlog.
If CNN ran this story I might watch TV again. Nah.
Floridiot #12
The last thing one wants to do is make a decision. The first, second, and third things a person wants to do is investigate to get the facts.
All Sibel has said is that she does not believe the official government story printed in the 9-11 Commission Report. She does not offer to tell the truth (i.e. make conclusions) about it before the investigating is over. She has reason to believe strange things were and are going on but can’t tell all.
Hundreds, thousands, and now millions of people are of her opinion. Architects and engineers, commercial airline pilots, and a host of other professionals question as Sibel does. Neither Sibel nor those folks are spooks.
And all they want is a proper, professional, investigation.
One past director of NIST, at the world conference on fire safety, said this:
(AE911 and OpEdNews). It isn’t kooky to want it done right. Then we will know if spooks did anything or not. And we will know the facts in a more scientific and professional manner.
“You’re doin’ a heckuva job 9-11 Commission” doesn’t cut it anymore.
Dredd, I only see one problem with asking for a proper investigation, has there ever been one in the past ?…none that I can think of, especially the more pungent crimes and when it’s the investigators/Government trying to cover up their own mess.
The insurance company paid up on the towers.
I would rank (pun intended) this one up with the worst by far.
We are only left to speculate.
They are the master illusionists.
How about those “turrists” losing their homes by taking advantage of subprime lenders & lobbyists, too!
Sibel Edmonds is a “turrist”, too! And how about all those “turrists” trying to hold the Bush regime accountable for trashing the Constitution?
Funny, now when you look back, you can see they had one of the bases covered…if Al Gore was president they had Lieberman as VP! Lieberman is such a traitor to the Democratic Party, he’s not even a Democrat anymore! Who’s idea was it to pick Lieberman as Gore’s VP? Also, remember Gore wouldn’t endorse Lieberman on his run for president, and everyone thought that was odd, since he was Gore’s VP pick?
Congrats to Sibel for getting her story out — she’s a patriot. On the other hand, that the story came out in the Murdoch-owned Times: I feel like we’ve gotten deeper into the story, but it’s still to dark to see what’s really going on. I’m worried about another false-flag “terrorist” operation, though, and completely galled at the unwillingness of the U.S. press to do its job.
It was the National Security council, DoD and the Pentagon intelligence apparatus that brought us the forged Niger Yellow Cake documents. Against CIA recommendations.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Yellowcake_forgery
Larisa Alexandrovna names names of those involved:
http://www.atlargely.com/2008/01/sibel-speaks-pa.html
– Tom
ewastud #14
Very interesting – I never though of that angle!
It would make sense.
I sure hope this story gets the legs it deserves. Congratulations to Sibel Edmunds and to Brad for putting it out here for us.
I find it most interesting that Grossman was helpful in getting certain suspects out of the country before they “spilled the beans” about 911.
Oh what a wicked web they weave.
Could this finally be the SMOKING GUN?
Aravosis is way behind. He’s still hoping Hillary wins.
Cudos Brad!
Great work Brad & crew,
And thank you Sibel Edmonds!
This really has gone viral on the net… at least on the blogs and the alternative news sites. Nothing in the corporate press as of yet. I won’t be holding my breath.
I see Colleen Rowley at protest events around the Twin Cities now and then. It would be very interesting to have a chat with her about this. Ray McGovern, Larry Johnson and Valerie Plame would be excellent sources to tap into as well. I wish I could get directly in contact with them. I am sure you can Brad! Let’s hear their perspective.
It is so tough to figure out how to fight this bloodless (on the surface) coup through which we are losing our nation as it has been happening on so many fronts, but pushing for the truth to be revealed and sharing it as thoroughly as possible is a huge part of the remedy.
Let’s just hope these revelations don’t push these thugs into the corner. They are far too evil without being desperate.
One thing that is being underplayed in all of this is how many of the people ‘named’ by the combination of the Times article, the picture page on Edmonds’ website and lists put out by Larisa Alexandrovna among others is how many have dual American and Israeli citizenship.
The truth needs to come out and if it has to happen under a barrage of charges of anti-semitism, then so be it. These treasonous thugs need to be prosecuted – no matter what nation(s) they pretend to call home.
January 19th, 2009 is not too late for impeachment.
Mikael Rudolph
http://www.ImpeachforPeace.org
http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com – sign the petition today!
in the paragraph:
Despite broken promises for hearings on her case by U.S. Congressman Henry Waxman (D-CA), support from Senators Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Patrick Leahy (D-MI), and a number of mainstream exposés several years ago detailing aspects of her story before she was willing to break her unprecedented “States Secrets Privilege” gag order, none of the American broadcast media outlets took her up on her offer.
If Patrick Leahy is who you truly meant he is (D-VT)
[ED NOTE: Whoops! Thank you, Carol. Comes of writing in the middle of the night on little or no sleep, I guess! Now corrected. — BF]
Somebody said Congress was threatened (by the White House???) with no 2008 election (because of a nuke attack on Capitol Hill???) if impeachment (and other investigations???) went forward. If Dems run out the clock and win big in November, I fear there WLL BE A NUKE ATTACK on Washington 1/20/09 while Bush and Cheney are conveniently out of town.
TomR #29
Thanks to your link, I finally found RLM, an ancient Bradblogger who drifted away into the fog some time back. It was good to know he is still on the job, and he posted the first response to her article on that blog!
While she is to be respected, let’s not forget that Brad not only printed names in this story, he linked the name to events!
The Brad dude has what it takes to turn Amurka back into America, and we applaud that loudly!
Lets give him some cash support to go along with our moral, sisterly, soulful, and brotherly support.
Brad is an American who can’t stand Amurka.
Floridiot #24
Bro, you asked: “… has there ever been one in the past?”.
Well, lets recap. The spirit of this thread is one of hope. The british newspaper has printed a bombshell that has generated hope. Hope for a truthful and complete investigation of the things Sibel wants to tell, but the preznit blush regime has ordered her not to tell.
So it seems that some women in the world, like Sibel and Bhutto, are standing up to power and demanding the truth and demanding it now.
Chickenshit men in the MSM do not seem to have the courage to do that, so lets give these American and other freedom loving women their “day in court”.
Let’s hope there is still the ability to do a proper investigation, and that Amurka has not utterly blinded over America.
Let’s get behind this flicker of hope … but without becoming intoxicated with hope, and as you intended to say, mixing some sober doubt in as well.
Onward!!!
Sibel publicly stated that she had a huge story and she would speak to anyone in the MSM who would print it.
That she had to leave the US and cross the ocean to find a paper that would print it, tells you all you need to know about our corrupted media.
Bush’s planned attack on Iran also seems to be going just swimmingly. First we’ll have a couple of theats back and forth and then we get our new “Gulf of Tonkin”.
It’s their belief that WWIII would be a great distraction from Afghanistan, Iraq, NOLA, the Economy and all of Bush’s other wonderful successes.
Video link is no longer working.
Thanks for telling this story again and again. Eventually it may make sense to the MSM. I know that it is easy for regular people to understand once they hear it.
. . . these bastards sold out America … all for filthy lucre!
Thank you Sibel Edmonds and Brad Friedman for bringing this to the public. So far the MSM has not touched this story. This is as of Monday morning. WTF?
What I want to know is, when does NATIONAL SECURITY out weigh phony state secrets privilege used to cover up their crimes?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
WOULD THE MILITARY BE WILLING TO STEP IN?
This is WAY worse than Watergate! Showing just to what extent the media is now controlled, since Watergate! The media shoud be ALL OVER THIS!
Watch, ONE person will do a story on this in the CMSM at some point, way too late, and get some kind of “award”!
“The next Woodward & Bernstein has cracked the case!!!”
The mainstream media aren’t about to touch this, they don’t have the courage.
As example, recall that Phil Donahue tried to have a 50/50 exchange between liberals and conservatives on his show. He was told to have two conservatives for every liberal – which he didn’t do.
There were complaints – not from his sponsors, but from other corporations. Donahue’s network caved in.
This shows just how much the mainstream media cannot be trusted to be objective. It’s the money that counts.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
While I greatly respect Larissa’s reporting, she took a commenter on her site to task today for daring to mention the term “Zionist” to describe Dov Zakheim and other signatories to the PNAC.
http://www.atlargely.com/2008/01/sibel-speaks-pa.html?cid=96206920#comment-96206920
This entire story cannot be understood unless and until yo put at its core, Mossad, and the Zionist (neocon) agenda to use 9/11 and all that has followed as the pretext to justify the creation of Eretz Israel.
Larissa claims to have insisted that people stop using the word “Zionist.”
Now as yourself why that would be, AND, if she insists that people not pursue that portion of the story, how much she can actually be relied upon to reveal the ENTIRE TRUTH.
Pay very close attention to all of the disinformation and roadblocks that have and will attempt to distance Israel/AIPAC’s role in all of these matters.
When you certain known Israeli apologists in the media writing stories designed specifically to hide Israel’s direct role in 9/11 and the Sibel Edmonds story (all the same story), REVEAL THEIR TRAITOROUS BEHAVIOR.
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com
PS:
Do you really think the timing of the FAKE Iranian Naval Provocation is coincidental in light of the timing of these revelations?
How many more days will Cheney wait to nuke something in order to cover his own ass and demand that Mossad Mole Chertoff declare Martial Law?
Media ownership study ordered destroyed
Sept 14, 2006
‘Every last piece’ destroyed
Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that “every last piece” of the report be destroyed. “The whole project was just stopped – end of discussion,” he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC’s Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/
“You can’t tell any more the difference between what’s propaganda and what’s news.”
FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein
15 August, 2006
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/16/national/main1900602.shtm
On ABC’s Nightline, Monday, August 14, former hostage Jill Carroll recounted how the Iraqi insurgency was “like a family affair… what are you gonna do, arrest them all, kill them all?”
At that moment over on C-SPAN, President Bush, in the State Department’s Treaty Room, was giving the answer:
Yes.
In the very next segment on C-SPAN, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu each delivered their own declarations of war in the Knesset. All three leaders, in the US and in Israel, pointed to Syria and Iran as the new front in the “war on terror.”
This during a “cease-fire.”
Did the FCC Report about MEDIA CONTROL reveal that the Zionists control the US Media?
Is that why a report, funded with your tax dollars, was destroyed?
DEMAND ANSWERS!
AND…Brad Friedman is on the INN Report on DISH channel 9415 Free Speech TV, right now…
Blockbuster outta site! Brad on the Inn Report on DISH Free Speech TV channel 9415! Great! Lenny Charles is great!
Brad was pimping something called the “bad blog”…or somethin’ like that…didn’t catch it…I TiVo’d it, though…
…and none of the above cared to update Sibel’s Wikipage?
I havn’t tuned in for a few days. Last night as I was drifting off to sleep I was thinking about Bush. Don’t know exactly what any way I quickly saw a mountain lion with fangs bared viciously screaching. It was so vivid. It felt like it was definitly related to Bush. I am no psychic but have had the occasional vision usually in half sleep states.
He and others are probably pretty pissed about Sybel. I hope she’s out of the country. Fly away for now Sybel to a country where the media will not cover up anything that happens to you.
I’ll read the article now.
“Last night as I was drifting off to sleep I was thinking about Bush.”
There’s a word for that: a “nightmare”
Big Dan
Right. A nightmares what it was and what he (they) is.
Comment #53:
Big Dan, Way to weigh in with the comic relief:)
Sally, all kidding aside your vision you had when you were drifting into sleep was probably pretty accurate. Don’t worry, the kit cat is really a spirit helper not gw bush.
Holy bejesus !!!
What the hell is wrong with these people that they would not only forsake their own country and the safety of the worlds’ innocents but jeopardize their own children’s well-being !?! Not only that but to have a cooperative conspiracy involving sooo many morally bankrupt people helping them out. They seem to have no knowledge of the concept of “What goes around , comes around” (or Kharma). These people disgust me and should be in prison , for life or maybe even meet the fate of the Rosenburgs.
I see a lot of names in these articles but I’m surprised I’m not seeing the name “Cheney” in all this. Cheney , the ‘nuke’ advocate — Cheney , the guy Armatage worked for — Cheney , the one with the pull to make those FBI investigations “go away” — Cheney , with the history of allowing Pakistan to acquire nuke technology during the Reagan years. Cheney !!
Edmunds — my hero. Its all there but how can this issue be forced upon the mainstrean media ?? Maybe as a start , Bumper stickers — “Who is Sibel Edmunds?” I challenged the ABC blog to pick-up this story , to no avail.
The biggest problem with getting this out there (as I see it) is that sooo many people are involved. If cornered , they’d likely get away with simply saying: “this is just more nonsense from the crackpot ‘conspiracy theorists’ — only thing is that “it is real” , so real that it would be hard to convince our own countrymen that their own kind could be guilty of such treachery. It would be portrayed akin to the Kennedy assasination conspiracy theorists or even to accounts of UFO witnesses. People are so easily “fooled” by these liars.
Ideas ??
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Comment #56:
10. Bumper Stickers
9. Hwy bridge banners
8. People who are well connected on the net directing people to this Bradblog story.
7. Brad keeping this story up indefinetely and thereafter making it an easy reference point.
6. Photocopy the story and let friends read the NAMES>
5. Contact a person at a news media outlets and demand reporting this story especially U.S. free press periodicals.
4. Followup phone call to ensure investigation and when story will be breaking.
3. Email/mail a copy to your Congressman demanding an investigation.
2. Flood John Conyers jr. offices in the House of Representives Judiciary requesting an immediate investigation.
1. Refuse to let this story die like your life depends on it because when it’s all said and done these parasitic destructive criminals have set a new low of theft and abuse of Executive branch powers. All in the name of personal gain, the bottom line, and an to extend powers defined in the Constitution by our Founding Fathers.
Let’s hope the day the corporate news media finally plans on running the story we don’t have a much-feared “false flag” operation.
I’m doing my part. (Although, ashamed to admit, only now after the BRAD Blog had the cajones to run the story in the first place. I salute you, Brad.)
A full investigation should trigger additional checks and balances prior to the 2008 election all the way down to how they cheated to get into office. Election votes counted in secrecy by the same felons involved with the candidates who stole the U.S. election.
More than just lies and a breach of trust, these individuals who mask themselves as quote religeous caring neo-conservative republicans and democrats must be tried as the FASCIST 1%er corporatist lying murderers that they are.
bush/cheney government have carelessly endanger our national/world security, used our military as pawns, bankrupted our nation and corrupted the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK economy that’s been in place adversely effecting most Americans. They have directed the reverse of 100’s environmental laws and policies in congress always favoring polluters.
Much more that just the possibility of future false flag war games like on 9/11, these people must be immediately removed since they are presently afforded the full powers of their respective office in addition to additional powers they have taken in their tenure.
If necessary, a state militia must be assembled to enforce the removal and prosecution in a world court by a non-bush appointed judge. In addition, jailing without parole must be the call of the day for the bush/cheney admininstration criminals and their accomplices.
Never again can we allow our government to be controlled by the bottom line of corporate interests. Corporate interests,lobbies, and contributions must be forever eliminated from the US political system.
The on going part the corporate mass media played during the bush/cheney years must be reviewed. Since multi-national corporations run the airwaves, propaganda posing as truth. Killing, murder, and death dominates the news. News reporting has gotten away from the truth to a slant to how it directly effects the interests of their owners (corporate 1%ers). THIS MUST END.
Media must be allowed to be media ONLY. Even the ownership of print, TV, and radio forms of media owned by 1 parent company as changed thanks to Ronald Reagan should be broken up to ensure inaccurate propaganda by stories aren’t run.
Lastly, our Federal agencies must be clensed. The Pentagon, CIA, FBI, all need new blood and all protocal changes must be reviewed and reverted in the best interests of our nation.
Dennis Kusinich for President. He is a man of the people and not a corporate sellout. I urge you all to listen to him speak or watch video on U-Tube. We need a call for peace and stop the escalation of nukes under bush to complete reduction.
Sadly Kucinich has zero chance because the corrupt MSM has done everything possible to make certain that he has no chance.
“” necessary, a state militia must be assembled to enforce the removal and prosecution in a world court by a non-bush appointed judge. In addition, jailing without parole must be the call of the day for the bush/cheney admininstration criminals and their accomplices””
Even sadder is the fact that this is really the only viable option left because these criminal elements have complete control of every single avenue that is normally used to put scum such as this in prison.
They have total control of the Supreme Court, the entire Congress and the MSM is without any question covering up the crimes and refusing to investigate. That leaves only one option.
The final sadness is that the American people will not rise up in the massive numbers needed to take this country back until its too late.
Our best chance is to take back the MSM first because until we have the MSM actually telling the truth instead of pure Reich wing propaganda then we will never have the absolute HATRED of ALL of Congress & these treasonous bastards that is NEEDED in order to get enough people off their damn asses to do something.
Human nature works on 2 extremes either Love or Hate is what makes a human being take action.
This is why even though approx. 50% of this country knows that 2 elections were blatantly stolen, that the entire Bush administration has committed treason & countless crimes have told so many bald faced lies it would take decades to document them all, have destroyed the Bill of Rights, attacked this country in a false flag attack on 9/11 and on & on the list is endless.
The reason nothing is happening and 10s of Millions are not marching on Washington is because of lack of one or the other (Love or Hate)
The majority of that 50% of this country that knows what is going on yet still does nothing is because they don’t HATE this administration yet.
The majority of this country is just “indifferent”.
We need the MSM to come out and tell the damn truth, tell the FACTS about 9/11, the FACTS about 2000/04′ stolen elections, the FACTS about Iraq and all the lies told by this administration and do it non-stop until it freaking sinks in.
Then we will have the sheer unbridled absolute hatred that is needed for the human animal to put down his Big Mac and get off their collective fat asses and do something before its too late.
We have a system that is totally broken so no matter whom is elected (if there even is an election)in 08′ it will make virtually no difference, the Democrats are so whipped & spineless that it makes me sick to look at them, the Rethuglicans are so corrupt & insane that nothing is going to change them.
We need a system overhaul, doing an oil change in an engine that just broke a crankshaft isn’t going to fix anything.
The Internet kept the Downing Street Memo story alive after the Times of London broke it, and eventually forced the U.S. media to cover it.
The Internet can do the same with this story.
Comment #56:
1. Update the Wikipedia website of Sibel and spell her name correctly at all times, out of respect.
1)FIRST – the #3 guy at STATE is accused of getting terror/spy suspects out of the US. I now wonder now if this and similar 911 relics have new legs?
“SUSPICIOUS “MIDDLE EASTERNERS” CHEER TERROR ATTACK FROM MOVING VAN
TRIO WHO CHEERED ATTACK FACE BOOT AS ILLEGAL ALIENS
By AL GUART (NEW YORK POST) http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/
September 13, 2001 — Three men who celebrated as the Twin Towers crumbled are facing deportation, The Post has learned. The men, described as illegal immigrants from the Middle East, were arrested Tuesday afternoon in a white Chevy van near the Meadowlands based on a tip from witnesses who saw them “cheering” and “jumping up and down” in Liberty State Park after the attack, a source said.
Witnesses took the plate number and the FBI sent out an alert to area cops, reading: “Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack . . . Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion.”
Port Authority cops nabbed the three as they drove along Route 3 in East Rutherford in the van, which had the words “Urban Moving Systems” painted on it. After grilling the men and searching the van in vain for explosives, the FBI turned the men over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service for deportation.â€
2)SECOND – Top Pentagon officials are accused of actively targeting weak human resources within sensitive war departments for Foreign intelligence agencies to TURN!
How many more ‘dots’ have to be presented here before this information hits the headlines in the American media? Murdoch paper or not – the American people need to see this information – forget ObamavsHillary; or speed boats swarm US destroyers.
Comment #60:
Your love and hate motivation theory of the American human animal is a good way of explaining away a lot of the apathy of the US people. Your opinion that nothing will get done until it is to late however is only speculation.
Another idea to get the word out is to get this story to as many college newspapers as possible. Kids do not like to worry about politics for the most part although they are most emotional charged and harness the angst of youth. On a whole, once they learn this story, it will be like the Vietnam draft.
Kids didn’t want a draft to fight a 1%er corporate war of lies for the men in Washington. This anger trickled down to the America’s high school youth AND brought the end of the Vietnam War NOT some war mongering general’s revisionist history that the US was victorious.
Tapping into the full blow anger of America’s youth about these treasonous destructive criminals WILL END their reign of terror and help change the system.
So when are the neocons going to set of a gas bomb (or nuke or biological bomb) in a US city (kill a million people), declare martial law, nuke Iran (kill another million people), fill up the concentration camp all over the US with anybody who can read (kill another million people), and sell each other stock options in Zyklon B.
Surely the neocons won’t risk being found out – they will destroy the world first.
‘Grizzly Bear Dancer’ —– I like the way you think — “you” , should run for office.
I concur with #9 that the Valerie Plame outing was about stopping her effective work in anti-wmd proliferation and not political payback for hero husband Joseph Wilson’s statements.
I am frightened thinking that the Murdoch Times is planting a preview of an attack on the USA with nukes in the autumn of 2008 to consolidate support and emergency powers ushering in Rudolph Ghouliani to take over for Cheney-Bush2.
Careful newswatchers recall the Al-Q’aida chatter reported through spring and summer 2001 of an air based terror attack.
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I finally understand the fecklessness of the Dems in taking on letting Sibel Edmonds speak — there is blame to spread around in both parties, and a lot of juicy embarrassing dirt on every politician and functionary. The results of which would be too unpredictable.
The most important story in American history next to that of the 9-11 inside job ignored by our mainstream media, Congress and the BushCo controlled DOJ.
Not even a mention for or against Sibel Edmonds in our controlled news media. This is proof positive that not only is our media controlled by zionist interests, but so is our government.
Do you think Ron Paul knows who Sibel Edmonds is? He should!
This is about spying, secrets, and criminality all being censored. This is about the treason and traitorship our zionist “friends” by false flag ops via tyranny.
No investigative journalism here in America today.
America is broken beyond repair and the only candidate out there that wants to try to fix it is being labeled a racist by the AIPAC smear group.
Who says they can’t keep 9-11 a secret and cover it all up? Most of America still believes bin Laden and his rag tag team attacked us on 9-11 because our controlled media fails to perform investigative journalism and divulge the facts.
Unless Ron Paul gets in office, the internet will soon be controlled too. We’ll be like Nazi Germany passing information from person to person.
Your papers please?
I hope you’re getting everything from Edmonds that you can- I’m surprised she’s still alive. Remember Chinagate- Clinton Administration officials were in on this as well. Someone’s seeing to the same crowd getting elected no matter what the people think or vote for: bush/clinton/clinton/bush/bush/clinton? When are we going to start hanging people for treason? We must get out from under the military industrial complex, the special interests and take the government back. This is a set up for global war- global nuclear war, the demise of America and an overall nightmare just too horrible to contemplate.
We need to get the story of Sibel Edmounds into the main stream media. How can we do this? Mik
read about the cover up
http://www.judiciaryreport.com/the_london_times_blasts_mueller_cover_up.htm
Wham!!! Wake Me Up Before You Go Go…….
“Make it Big, 1984′
Forearms, wow.
thank very good document